Alverno College Direct Entry into Nursing (DEMSN) 2022 Arizona

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Hello!

Has anyone applied to the Mesa location DEMSN program with Alverno? Looks like a brand new program in AZ. I'm currently waiting to see if I got accepted, but wanted to see if anyone else has already gone through the process, learned of where clinical rotations in the program could be at, etc.

 

londonflo said:

CCNE is programmatic accreditation

Yes I understand that. So when people were saying they were losing it, IDK if they meant CCNE or just with their state BON. But you're right, I think they are referring to the state, which is probably why they opened a school in another state. 

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Is there anyone here currently enrolled in the program?

I am a prospective student.

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As a current student, I say find another school.

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Laylabrook said:

As a current student, I say find another school.

Appreciate your reply, would you be able to give more detail?

According to my research there's only 1 shorter program than Alverno but they didn't accept me last time I applied. Duration of 18-20 months and the price point makes it a charm. If the issue is NCLEX prep, I am good at test taking with 3rd party resources.

Looking forward for your reply.

Also if easier feel free to send an email to [email protected].

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efe said:

Appreciate your reply, would you be able to give more detail?

According to my research there's only 1 shorter program than Alverno but they didn't accept me last time I applied. Duration of 18-20 months and the price point makes it a charm. If the issue is NCLEX prep, I am good at test taking with 3rd party resources.

Looking forward for your reply.

Also if easier feel free to send an email to [email protected].

For me personally they are very unorganized. I am in the second cohort and they struggle to keep staff. They are unfair with their grading systems and again very unorganized. The amount of busy work that is given that does not help or facilitate learning is very heavy. It is Definitely a self taught school. Meaning you must go home and teach yourself most of the time. We pay high tuition and have asynchronous class time for half the semester. Not to mention that the school only owns half of one floor for all the cohorts! It's becoming very very hard to navigate when you have 4+ cohorts and only two classrooms. Due to this, there is also a lack of resources to practice skills. Sometimes we go to lab and there are no resources but we must have lab every week. Do not get below 80% because they will kick you out. Also, although those assignments are numerous every week, they do not count towards your grade. Due to the school being so small, there is a lot of politics. Professors not liking you, playing with your grades, and then still being your professor for the next class. You must suck up to the teachers to feel comfortable and get by. They give you assignments two and three days before they are due. They advertise that they are a school that helps those who do not have nursing backgrounds transition to the nursing field but I feel like they expect you to know things without being taught. When teaching, they speak to you as if you should know what they are talking about. We have complained so much about their teaching styles because they are not teaching! As someone who has a bachelors and a masters in another field, I have never felt more uncomfortable in a school. I can genuinely go on and on. I would really say look for a school that is not so small or maybe go to the Wisconsin campus. If these things mentioned don't bother you, then go for it! The program could be much better but I do not see it improving anytime soon.  NCLEX is not the problem but sometimes I question whether I will be prepared because their teaching is not where it should be in my opinion. If I could go back in time, I would not come here. I would genuinely advise against it seriously. 

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Laylabrook said:

For me personally they are very unorganized. I am in the second cohort and they struggle to keep staff. They are unfair with their grading systems and again very unorganized. The amount of busy work that is given that does not help or facilitate learning is very heavy. It is Definitely a self taught school. Meaning you must go home and teach yourself most of the time. We pay high tuition and have asynchronous class time for half the semester. Not to mention that the school only owns half of one floor for all the cohorts! It's becoming very very hard to navigate when you have 4+ cohorts and only two classrooms. Due to this, there is also a lack of resources to practice skills. Sometimes we go to lab and there are no resources but we must have lab every week. Do not get below 80% because they will kick you out. Also, although those assignments are numerous every week, they do not count towards your grade. Due to the school being so small, there is a lot of politics. Professors not liking you, playing with your grades, and then still being your professor for the next class. You must suck up to the teachers to feel comfortable and get by. They give you assignments two and three days before they are due. They advertise that they are a school that helps those who do not have nursing backgrounds transition to the nursing field but I feel like they expect you to know things without being taught. When teaching, they speak to you as if you should know what they are talking about. We have complained so much about their teaching styles because they are not teaching! As someone who has a bachelors and a masters in another field, I have never felt more uncomfortable in a school. I can genuinely go on and on. I would really say look for a school that is not so small or maybe go to the Wisconsin campus. If these things mentioned don't bother you, then go for it! The program could be much better but I do not see it improving anytime soon.  NCLEX is not the problem but sometimes I question whether I will be prepared because their teaching is not where it should be in my opinion. If I could go back in time, I would not come here. I would genuinely advise against it seriously. 

Also if you are black, Mexican, or anything of minority they are racist!! They have asked several people "do you have a learning disability" 

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Laylabrook said:

Also if you are black, Mexican, or anything of minority they are racist!! They have asked several people "do you have a learning disability" 

That is really unfair, doesn't sound like a great school.

So I am confused by your reply. Did they turn some of the classes online because of the lack of available classrooms?

Also, if you know is there any other 12-20 months DEMSN program you could recommend? 

Thanks again

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efe said:

That is really unfair, doesn't sound like a great school.

So I am confused by your reply. Did they turn some of the classes online because of the lack of available classrooms?

Also, if you know is there any other 12-20 months DEMSN program you could recommend? 

Thanks again

Apparently many of the classes are meant to be "hybrid" but truly I feel like I am teaching everything to myself. Which is not great in a nursing program. I mean it's great for some people who don't like going to class, but for me it's challenging especially when I do not have a medical background. 
 

I unfortunately do not know any other DEMSN programs that are not far away. This is a convenient location. But also please don't just take my word, I'm sure other people have positive reviews but this is just how I feel! 

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Laylabrook said:

Apparently many of the classes are meant to be "hybrid" but truly I feel like I am teaching everything to myself. Which is not great in a nursing program. I mean it's great for some people who don't like going to class, but for me it's challenging especially when I do not have a medical background. 
 

I unfortunately do not know any other DEMSN programs that are not far away. This is a convenient location. But also please don't just take my word, I'm sure other people have positive reviews but this is just how I feel! 

Thank you! Lastly, do you feel scared that program may be cancelled before you take the NCLEX? Some say program is not fully accredited.

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efe said:

Thank you! Lastly, do you feel scared that program may be cancelled before you take the NCLEX? Some say program is not fully accredited.

No. The board of nursing just visited the other day! Once the first cohort takes the NCLEX, it will determine their official accreditation. However, if they do poorly, we will still be able to sit for the NCLEX and not be affected. It takes a lot for a school to completely lose their accreditation/not be approved. The first cohort has to fail miserably and even if they do, there are measures put in place for the cohorts below.  The school is not doing that bad where I feel like we aren't being taught the basics! 

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Laylabrook said:

No. The board of nursing just visited the other day! Once the first cohort takes the NCLEX, it will determine their official accreditation. However, if they do poorly, we will still be able to sit for the NCLEX and not be affected. It takes a lot for a school to completely lose their accreditation/not be approved. The first cohort has to fail miserably and even if they do, there are measures put in place for the cohorts below.  The school is not doing that bad where I feel like we aren't being taught the basics! 

This is good to hear! Thank you again for sharing your experience!

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Hi everyone!

I just applied for the Fall 2024 semester in Mesa, AZ

I've been really scared just reading reviews for this school, and so I wanted to hear from anyone about how the program was and if it is worth it. 

Any honesty is appreciated!

Thank you :)

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