Administration lacks the reasoning ability of a 5 year old

Nurses General Nursing

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After returning to a facility I had not worked at for a year, I found numerous additional documentation requirements. None had been removed or simplified. For example, hanging a bag of saline now involves 5 separate instances of documentation:

  • Sign it on the paper chart.
  • Pretend to remove it from the Pyxis. It isn't in the Pyxis but signing into the. Pyxis and pretending to remove it creates a record for billing.
  • Document a start time in the computer. This involves logging in, and clicking several levels into the system.
  • Repeat above to edit the above document to reflect a stop time.
  • Electronically sign MAR.

What makes this process even worse, is that high school senior could create a program that consolidates these tasks, freeing me up to actually take care of patients.

This is just one example of many.

Last year, my twelve hour shift had 720 minutes in it, and I had frequently used each of those minutes. Since I generally get good evaluations, presumably I use my 720 minutes on tasks important to the well being of my patients. A year has passed, and twelve hours still contain only 720 minutes. Now that some of those minutes are designated for new documentation, I have to cut out some of the tasks I have previously done.

In my mind, this concept, beyond the reach of administration, is so simple a small child could understand it

For this experiment, I borrowed a five year old. This particular kid has smart parents, so he could be a little advanced.

I lined up three glasses. I left one empty, filled the other half way, and, filled the third to the brim. I took a pitcher of water, and asked him if I could pour some into the first glass, then the second. He said that I could. A close approximation of our conversation when I got to the third glass:

Can I pour more water in here?

No!

How come?

It's too full.

What if I pour some water in it anyway?

It will spill.

Well, I am going to pour some in anyway.

You're silly.

So- a five year old understands the concept that if something is full, and one adds more, something comes out. How is it that hospital administration cannot grasp this simple concept? Some of these people seem reasonably intelligent. They can tie their own shoes, obtain drivers licenses, etc.

There might be some good reasons for a new requirement. It could be required for reimbursement, it could come from JCAHO, or an in house committee. That doesn't change the fact that my time as a nurse is a limited resource, which, if expended on one task, cannot be expended on another. And....Time spent on documentation is not spent on patient care.

While the above may seem like a rant, (it is), I actually have a suggestion to administrators: Treat my time like a budget. Not like a government budget, but like a real budget. If you add a new piece of documentation, figure out how much time that task will take. Do this by following a couple of nurses through the task in real life. If the new task takes three minutes, figure out a way to gain those three minutes back so it is not at the expense of patient care.

This may be easier than it sounds. The system you have me working in is terribly inefficient. I have worked hard for my education and clinical skills. Please allow me to use them more wisely.

perhaps you should real the whole post, because this nurse DID offer a solution. a good one, too.

that solution was a "good one"??? give me a break. do you honestly think that the manager is going to follow a nurse around and time them to see how long it takes them to complete a task? get real. oh, and no, I'm not in management. I've just got some common sense.

Groupthink: The phenomenon where a group arrives at a decision collectively that no single person in the group would come to if they had to make a decision individually.

actually, no I'm not. don't care to be. but i do think that the op's "solution" is juvenile and unrealistic. No manager is going to spend their day following around nurses and timing them on how long it takes for them to complete a new task. If the op wants to be taken seriously, the management is going to want to see data, research...you know...evidenced based practice. so, do the research, prepare the data in an easy to follow format and present it to the admin. but seriously, whining and complaining about it isn't going to change anything, except maybe your blood pressure.

Gee, "juvenile" seems a little harsh. I have spent years in various supervisory roles, and it would never occur to me to add to a subordinate's workload with taking into account the effect. One thing I have done is to ask the person how the new task will affect their job, and made modifications based on my priorities. In order to do this, I would have to know how long the new task takes.

On the other hand, I do kind of like your approach. Even if an employee is allready working to full capacity, I'll just add something to his workload. Then, if he whines and complains, IE points out that what I am expecting is physically impossible, I will tell him to do some research, collect data, and present it to me in an easy to follow format. Bonus for cool graphics.

I feel kind of silly that as a manager, I took responsibility for the volume of work I assigned.

Thanks for your input.

Gee, "juvenile" seems a little harsh. I have spent years in various supervisory roles, and it would never occur to me to add to a subordinate's workload with taking into account the effect. One thing I have done is to ask the person how the new task will affect their job, and made modifications based on my priorities. In order to do this, I would have to know how long the new task takes.

On the other hand, I do kind of like your approach. Even if an employee is allready working to full capacity, I'll just add something to his workload. Then, if he whines and complains, IE points out that what I am expecting is physically impossible, I will tell him to do some research, collect data, and present it to me in an easy to follow format. Bonus for cool graphics.

I feel kind of silly that as a manager, I took responsibility for the volume of work I assigned.

Thanks for your input.

were you attempting to be sarcastic?

Nope.

Just tired.

that solution was a "good one"??? give me a break. do you honestly think that the manager is going to follow a nurse around and time them to see how long it takes them to complete a task? get real. oh, and no, I'm not in management. I've just got some common sense.

This timing technique suggested, when implemented properly, is a fantastic way to highlight wasteful parts of a process. It is one of the reasons that Toyota did so well as a car company while American auto makers faltered.

The technique gives management and workers objective data to use to improve work habits. It is not the times themselves that are important, but what is being done during those times. Anything that is detracting from providing competent patient care is considered "waste". Important: proper documentation is NOT waste.

As an oversimplified example: Lets say you follow a CNA while they do a check and change on a resident. You note the CNA spent 10 minutes going downstairs to the supply room twice because the utility rooms were not fully stocked. Sure, it is "common sense" to keep the damn utility rooms stocked, but management doesn't make sure it happens until they see exactly how much money they are wasting. This could highlight a systemic problem that management would not have otherwise addressed.

This type of process improvement activity is extremely difficult to implement in the United States for two reasons: 1. US middle and upper level managers don't like to work, and 2. Our individualistic society prevents us from willfully and productively participating in such exercises.

Workers in the US feel they should always be "left alone" to do their job they see fit. Many are as uninterested in working with management as management is at working with them. So wasteful processes continue.

The overall strategy is called "Lean Manufacturing." When implemented correctly, it is invaluable. Unfortunately, most "Lean" implementations fail in the US due to worker attitudes and lack of competence in rolling it out.

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