Abusive and Cruel Clinical Instructors: Why??

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Forgive me, but I've noticed on these boards when a student is afraid of a overly harsh clinical instructor, there seems to be a running theme: angry clinical instructors that embarrass students, intimidate them, and make them afraid of them are the clinical instructors you want, because they make you work hard?

Huh?

This is grossly incorrect, in my humble opinion. I had a clinical instructor who picked on only me in a class of eight people. She would actually chart for other students, was kind to them. When it came to me, she embarrassed me in front of patients, their families, and other staff. She talked down to me, she consistently made me feel that I was not going to be a good nurse.

Absolutely EVERYTHING I did was wrong, and nothing I did was right. Even when there were no mistakes on my charting, she made it a point NOT to tell me how well I was doing, yet did it with other students.

It had a horrible effect on me: I lost 25 pounds, I was stressed out beyond belief. I was not sleeping, and it took a toll on other classes I was taking. I am an A student, and I began to get grades that were below that. It was then that I took control of my life.

I realized that when there is a person, instructor, boss, manager, who you can NEVER, EVER PLEASE, despite how hard you work, and how correct your work may be, there may be a personality disorder there, and you may need to simply talk to other faculty who may be able to talk to the instructor. You may just need to realize that IT'S NOT YOU, IT'S THEM. And that's ok. It's ok to realize that you are doing your best, and there are people who you cannot please. But lateral violence, nurses being mean and cruel to each other, and younger nurses accepting this attitude and even praising it is baffling to me.

This harshness and uncaring attitude that some clinical instructors show to students is what fuels lateral violence in the nursing profession, and it makes being a nurse more about personality conflicts than taking care of patients. In nursing school, I have seen more times than I care to remember other nurses who are mean and cruel to new nurses, or me as a nursing student. I don't cower in a corner like many nursing students, I stand up to nurses like that, and demand to be treated with respect.

I can understand that nursing students may be afraid to cross these clinical instructors, but what kind of nurse will you be, and how can you advocate for patients, if you cannot advocate for yourself? You need courage to be a nurse, and it seems that the message on many boards is: "do what you can with mean clinical instructors, be silent, accept the abuse, and move on". This just seems strange to me since as nurses, we need to be strong for our patients.

There is a nursing shortage going on, and we don't need students dropping out of programs because they have clinical instructors stuck in the past who think it's acceptable to embarrass and intimidate students and create a hostile class environment. It's unnecessary, and we as nurses need to acknowledge it.

I think it's high time that abusive instructors and nurses who practice lateral violence to other nurses and CNA's realize just how they are making this nursing shortage worse, by discouraging bright and talented nurses who don't need the cruelty. For those of you who are reading this who practice this behavior and you know who you are: Stop It.

And we wonder why so many nurses leave the profession.

Specializes in Critical Care, Emergency Medicine, Flight.

i havent read this whole thread, but my current instructor is a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii*******

and we butt heads all the time, however, she knows her stuff which i like and if im prepared we dont have conflict so, i guess it all depends?

I am disappointed in nursing school. I've not only found the clinical instructor is mean (to me), but has favorites (those with more experience) and isn't afraid to let it show. If I already knew about how to be an RN I wouldn't be here. Getting a sinking feeling that I may not pass clinicals...and it would be the first fail in my life. I am not impressed with the nurses attitudes, in general, either. They don't want to take the time to teach in almost every case. Its great when you do the grunt work for them though. The system seems broken.

You are right about the system being broken and some nurses can't stand nursing students but don't mind you doing the grunt work for them. Shame......

Wow I wish I had read this thread sooner, I went through this a couple months ago with a substitute clinical instructor who took over during our final rotation of our LVN program.

She had no faith that we had learned anything, never listened to a word we said, yelled at us all the time IN FRONT of patients! She performed colostomy care with NO GLOVES!!

I chose to go to LVN school and do the ladder up to BSN because of being a single mom and needing to work as soon as possible, but if I could go back I would do RN school before having kids. I feel like there's a general attitude like "they're just LVNs, it doesn't matter if they learn much." The program is strict but yet it lacks a lot academically. THANK GOD our regular clinical instructor came back from medical leave just before I lost my mind.

I honestly feel like I learned more of what not to do from the RNs and LVNs at our clinical sites, and from the substitute that we had to put up with for two looooooong months. She kept telling us we didn't have enough "runway" for our injections, like we're flying planes. We had to start way back, it was embarrasing, I had to fight myself to keep from laughing while I gave insulin, knowing that she was having me start way to far back as if I was chucking a football.

And don't even get me started about some of the theory classes! Eeeeek! Almost done with LVN........but now I fear how behind I'll be in RN school with the bizarre clinical experience I've had, and with all your horror stories. :)

What did you do about all of this? I am going thru the same thing right now. d2long

Our instructor laughs when the students don't do good. Laugh in our faces. "Doesn't matter to me, I have my licence already and you don't HA HA!" Really, lady? Geesh! It's discouraging and disheartening. Like, are you for us or against us? I don't understand it. I see the whole wanting us to be awesome, compotent nurses but everyday I hear people say how much they're second guessing this career path JUST because of the teachers(and older nurses at clinicals). Why do nurses eat their young alive???? :nono: not cool!

Thank you to all who have posted on this thread. Now I know that I am not alone. I am having a nightmare of an experience with my current clinical instructor. She is rude and demeaning to me in front of my peers as well as in front of the hosptial staff. She makes me feel inept and stupid. I simply do not understand why people need to treat other people in this way. I have been up all night wondering if I should continue on this path or not. I have contemplated writing a letter and sending it to the dean but I am afraid of the repercussions that this could have. She has already hinted that she fails students...she seemed quite proud of that fact too! After reading all of your experiences I realize that it is not just me who has had to endure torment and abuse in nursing school!

Specializes in Telemetry, Case Management.

I agree that there are instructors out there who have some kind of mental/emotional instability. When I was in LPN school over 28 years ago, we had one instructor that was very up front about her intentions. Three of us girls were a different race and financial status (we were poor as church mice and she flashed her money/jewels/cars) than this teacher. She said in front of the other students that she was going to weed us three out, and make sure the male student of her race was going to graduate if it killed her, that no male of her race had graduated the program before and he was going to do it if it killed her. And she said it more than once, I mean every week it was said to us.

In the end, the other two girls AND the male student all dropped/flunked out. I made it out and graduated the program, no thanks to her. She was not only our clinical instructor but also lectured in class the first quarter. I did not get a good grade, it was passing, but not great in her lecture class.

We told our DON and the other teachers what she had said, and all they said was to prove her wrong, do well and get past it. Well, that was d*mned hard to do. She SHOULD have been counseled, fired, what have you.

And the fact that this is allowed to keep going on, nearly 30 years later shows that nursing schools are still stuck in this "take abuse and suck it up" mentality. My question is WHY? We wouldn't, as nurses or just people in general, counsel others to stay in an abusive situation and just 'take it, that's the way it is.'

Speaking of unstable instructors, in that same program, I had our mental health instructor ask me if I would be a surrogate mother for her. We, the students, had been discussing our pregnancies, and I stated how I had relatively comfortable pregnancies and how I enjoyed being pregnant. A day or two later, she came and sat with me at lunch and asked me right out if I would be interested in carrying a baby for her. My answer was, and still would be, no, I would be afraid I would get attached to the child. Later on, it struck me just HOW inappropriate it was for her to ask me this while I was her student. She was a very nice lady and I ddin't fear any retribution from her, and there was none, but it just wasn't correct.

I had an instructor who spent most of the time in the room behind the nursing station, we were suppose to pass out medication every week, over 10 weeks we did it twice. I feel like I learned nothing.

I think there is a difference between being "abusive" and being "harsh" ... I had a pretty harsh instructor, who expected perfection at everything. I DID learn a lot from her...but she wasn't actually abusive or singling people out..she was the same way with all of us! We would b*^ch about her amongst ourselves, but she really did make me learn...so maybe the people who are saying that "those are the instructors you want" are really talking about the harsh ones, and not the abusive ones? It is always wrong to be abusive, in ANY case. Making you do your best, though, is a different story...

I know exactly what you mean. My clinical teacher is so strict but she's AWESOME! She makes sure she nails it in our brains and I appreciate her for that. She even has her scrubs on, in the rooms with us, elbow deep in poop. But man oh man, when she drills us, it makes you wanna go in the corner and hide. Big difference from our lecture teacher......

In our program we had a very strict professor who was also a clinical instructor (everyone dreaded having her)

-She would tug on students hair to remind them that their ponytale should not touch their shoulder

-Single students out in class and ask question after question, even when their answers were going nowhere, many felt humiliated by this

-Send students home from clinical if they were not prepared (again many thought this was harsh)

-If you asked her a question she would ask you question after question until you finally just ended up answering your own question

-her exams were the most difficult out of all of the other classes, year after year

We started with 80 in our community college, at the end of first year when it was time for her final there were less than 60. We found candy waiting for us at our seats and a speech about 'save the red ones for last' for the question you are really stuck on.

I remember being so overwhelmed one day and she came to me and gave me a shocking 'pep' talk instead of lecture.

When we were almost done with our 4 year program there were probably 20-30 of us. Attending seminars with her we learned about how respected she was in the community and all of her former students would always come up and thank her (while we of course rolled our eyes). We learned how hard she had to fight to ensure we received the great clinical experiences that we did, some students at the university (joint partnership) folded towels at the salvation army as part of their clinical experience.

Looking back, I believe it would have been easier for her not to care, to give us all the answers and not challenge us. I believe that she wasn't too harsh or singling people out, it was a combination of her teaching style coupled with our own, thoughts, fears and anxieties. It is because of her that all of those who graduated from our program are excelling in their careers. Of course we all came out of school and were still a bit shocked about the responsibilities, work-load etc but we had some sort of preparation for this. The questions that I ended up answering myself, well those are the answers I remember. I am able to think scenarios through and consider many variables thanks to her guidance. Needless to say, the people who really hated her and complained were the ones who never made it past 2nd year and most of them (since I knew them personally I think I can say this) never really did anything with their lives, they thought nursing was an easy degree which would lead to a great job with lots of money. She provided them with a much needed reality check before they wasted their time and money in a 4 year program.

Of course I realize that this is not the case for everyone and feel that there is no excuse for some of the horrible clinical instructors that have been described in this thread.

I am forever grateful to this particular professor/clinical instructor.

Hi, I have just finished my 2nd clinical placement today. I was the only student who did not complete all my competency tasks. I was pulled aside 3 times during my placement. I was scolded because he believed that I didn't listen to him. He told me that I was behaving like a teenager (I am 36), and he doesn't know what to do with me. He mentioned that the feedback he had from my buddy EN & RN confirmed all of the above. I was speechless and sad. I asked one of my buddies (she is my senior and very professional) she told me that I was helpfull, polite, professional, and a nice student to work with, and that the clinical teacher hadn't ask for her feedback at all, although I spent most of my clinical hours with her. I spent 5 minutes crying in the pan room, he caught me and told me to suck it up and continue, or go home. I composed myself and sucked it up. Then I got ready for the next assessment, I did s'thing else wrong maybe because I was nervous after all that, he scolded me again and told me to stop and throw everything away, so I did. He then scolded me again for doing so. Feedback from him, goes like this, "you have an attitute problem, unsafe, and should reassess your career choice. I'm now left feeling defeated..

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