A Filipino who wants to work abroad

Silverdragon102, BSN · Apr 1, 2005

great to be back!
It was as if the end of the world for me when I heard about the temporary stoppage of employment for foreign nurses in the US. (Not exaggerating!) :roll
It would take a lot of time when it resumes right? I really want to work outside the Philippines even if its not in US Ill be working. I am about to finish my four year BSN degree here in the Philippines, (I have two semesters left) and wants to fly to other country.
Can anyone suggest other countries that need nurses (with good pay!)
Almost everyone here in Phils. wanted to work in US. Is New Zealand good? what about Australia?
Hoping for your reply!
Yoo jin

We have a lot of nurses working in the UK and seem happy and some use it as a stepping stone for the US ie help get their english up to speed etc.

safewaygreenbox · Apr 1, 2005

We have a lot of nurses working in the UK and seem happy and some use it as a stepping stone for the US ie help get their english up to speed etc.

I know but really one would expect english to be up to speed before nursing in the UK and not to use British nurses and patients as a learning ground - it is dangerous for all. Shame on the system in the UK. Many foriegn nurses have good communication skills but unfortunatly many do not.

Kay the 2nd

suzanne4, RN · Apr 1, 2005

If you wish to work in the US, then go for it. Even without the delay for nurses from China, India, and the Philippines, most nurses wait on average two years before getting their gr4eeen card. Just work on getting your requirements completed.

That way you will be ready when the delay is lifted. There is not a ban on foreign nurses being hired in the US, or from any other country. The problem is that all of the visas from those three countires have been assigned for a certian period. That is it.

I suggest that you follow some of the threads that are already posted on the International forum.

p.s. The accents in the UK are quite different from the US, you would need to learn almost a new vocabulary for some things just to relearn for the US. Also both require English exams, Australia is as strict as the US for language skills.

Silverdragon102, BSN · Apr 1, 2005

I know but really one would expect english to be up to speed before nursing in the UK and not to use British nurses and patients as a learning ground - it is dangerous for all. Shame on the system in the UK. Many foriegn nurses have good communication skills but unfortunatly many do not.
Kay the 2nd

I have worked with a lot of nurses and apart from a very minute few most spoke reasonable English. At the hospital I worked at only 1 failed on his competences for not speaking good english. He passed the second time after being given lessons. I found their writing the hardest. But I agree that speaking the language is essential, but do bear in mind that dialect does change around the country

safewaygreenbox · Apr 1, 2005

I have worked with a lot of nurses and apart from a very minute few most spoke reasonable English. At the hospital I worked at only 1 failed on his competences for not speaking good english. He passed the second time after being given lessons. I found their writing the hardest. But I agree that speaking the language is essential, but do bear in mind that dialect does change around the country

Hi

nothing at all against foriegn trained nurses - I like the diversity - and I know very little about the requirments to work in the UK from abroad but your comment ''some use it as a stepping stone for the US ie help get their english up to speed etc'' freeked me a bit as it would be a typical UK thing to place more importance in getting up the numbers of nurses for their statistics than ensuring the working conditions of the nurses here. (well thats how it feels anyway )

Had handover from an Asian nurse working in A & E and I had to ask her 3 times to repeat the age of the patient - gave up after that and I was just lucky that the Dr was standing there and gave me handover. :mad: Havn't seen her since :rolleyes:

If we didn't have foreign nurses half of my ward would have to close. Anyway I think there is a different thread along these lines somewhere - just didn't wanted to sound anti foriegn nurses......after all I am hoping to be one :chuckle

Kay the 2nd

Silverdragon102, BSN · Apr 1, 2005

Hi
nothing at all against foriegn trained nurses - I like the diversity - and I know very little about the requirments to work in the UK from abroad but your comment ''some use it as a stepping stone for the US ie help get their english up to speed etc'' freeked me a bit as it would be a typical UK thing to place more importance in getting up the numbers of nurses for their statistics than ensuring the working conditions of the nurses here. (well thats how it feels anyway )
Had handover from an Asian nurse working in A & E and I had to ask her 3 times to repeat the age of the patient - gave up after that and I was just lucky that the Dr was standing there and gave me handover. Havn't seen her since
If we didn't have foreign nurses half of my ward would have to close. Anyway I think there is a different thread along these lines somewhere - just didn't wanted to sound anti foriegn nurses......after all I am hoping to be one :chuckle
Kay the 2nd

Didn't mean for it to come across as I may have done. Nurses that come from a non EU I believe have to pass certain competencies of which uage. This is just from the experiences I have come across and the hospital I used to work. Some of the nurses was using UK as as stepping stone but most were happy just working in the UK. I was just trying to give the OP a choice

madwife2002, BSN, RN · Apr 1, 2005

Didn't mean for it to come across as I may have done. Nurses that come from a non EU I believe have to pass certain competencies of which uage. This is just from the experiences I have come across and the hospital I used to work. Some of the nurses was using UK as as stepping stone but most were happy just working in the UK. I was just trying to give the OP a choice

Do you know that when i went for a three day study seminar with OGP, there were 27 nurses there studying for NCLEX and only 3 of us were british born and bred!

When i questioned the team from OGP they told me that every 4 weeks in London and Birmingham these seminars take place, with similar attendance figures except there is normally one 1-2 UK born and bred nurses attending!!

So I asume a lot of none UK nurses use the Uk as a stepping stone to US. The advantage for us is that these nurses work in UK filling a huge gap for at least 2-3 years, and many of them whilst coming here just to emigrate to US find that they like it here and settle.

We have nurses on our ward from South Africa, India and Philopines and they are a credit to the ward, and now we have a french girl who makes us laugh with the improper slang her husband has taught her is correct English. :rotfl:

safewaygreenbox · Apr 3, 2005

:)

Kay the 2nd

Espanclex · Dec 4, 2005

Relax... the nurse shortage is onlu going up as RN nuring schoolls are down about 22% form 1992. Baby-boomers retiring, longevity going up by tech, and women roles shifting to other occupations, just to mention a few socio-demographics...and then the social migration every time a country political fabric is disturbed by global economics...globalization of nursing is here to stay and will be the most available solution to USA and European hospital.

Politicians and ehalthcar private sector healthcare systems are downplaying the facts because "IT IS A VERY HOT POTATO" and nobody has the solution..! Too many long time factors to removed...impossible..!

In fact, and i'm close to top management in hospitals, and have thought NCLEX, prep, there are indicators telling us the opposite, foreign globalization of nursing is a FACT....today and will be when you are ready..!

Espanclex Instructor

josie1 · Dec 16, 2005

I would like to add that I feel as though the countries from which most of the foreign nurses are coming from (Statisticaly the Philippines),seems to have an educational system now that is set up to service the "export" of their local Nurses and Doctors ( I am among them ). I think it would be wise for the "destination" countries hospitals etc. reinvest back in the countries from which they 'take' -in such things like technology, training , methods etc.

Genaro · Jan 29, 2006

How about working in Singapore? Are you interested?

great to be back!
It was as if the end of the world for me when I heard about the temporary stoppage of employment for foreign nurses in the US. (Not exaggerating!) :roll
It would take a lot of time when it resumes right? I really want to work outside the Philippines even if its not in US Ill be working. I am about to finish my four year BSN degree here in the Philippines, (I have two semesters left) and wants to fly to other country.
Can anyone suggest other countries that need nurses (with good pay!)
Almost everyone here in Phils. wanted to work in US. Is New Zealand good? what about Australia?
Hoping for your reply!
Yoo jin