Saudi Arabia - Good Idea or Not - page 18

To an American nurse, it seems like an upside-down system of Policies and Procedures that fails to fall within any framework of prior hospital experiences. This is a place where the patients tell you when it is time for an... Read More

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    I have my experiences working in two different mental hospital as staff nurse and EEG operator, A year in Riyadh and couple more years in Thaif. One thing that I learned that once you decide working abroad, including Saudi Arabia, pay full attention and be compliant to the local rule. I envied US nurses who considered as more knowledgeable and more skillful.
    Every country has preferences. I agree with Rasha, not all Saudian Nurses are lazy, some do, but I treated them as co workers that need to be reminded of their duty because if thing goes wrong they are also liable to it. Nobody will believe if I had courage to rent a car, went around city to city with no local driving license. Being polite and firm is the key to everything. Say yes if you see the good, say no if you believe is wrong. Don't play something that you think the same as in your homeland. As an example, don't ever touch anyone's butt if you don't want to be accused as inviting homosexual action, and don't be tempted to act one also. Food are greats, supermarket also. Just remember what your purpose being in Saudi Arabia and stick to it. I worked with mostly male and female nurses from Philippines, UK, India, Pakistan, Marocco, Tunisia, Palestine, and Indonesia. Onehalf of them are Catholics but been working and enjoying their time for 10-15 years.
    Though I am moslem, but I still had to adjust my self to get along with things.. As it is not my country.. And had my best time with it from 91 to 93.

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    Thank you for the insightful article. I have requested information from an international agency in regard to accepting a temporary position in Saudi Arabia. I am glad to happen upon your experience in the area. This gives me much to ponder.
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    I'm an American nurse (Cali gal) currently working in Jeddah,Saudi Arabia on a 1 year contract. To the original poster, only male doctors are allowed to bring family members with them. All others are provided single female or male studio apartment housing, and we all live on one huge complex. My apartment is very quiet. So here's the run down...

    the hospital is nice
    Women can't drive here, you WILL not miss it trust me lol
    english speaking employees from different countries (America, India, Egypt, Austrailia, New Zealand, UK, large number from the Phillipines)
    General salary is $68,000 (tax free)set by hospital, not agency
    53 days of vacation per year
    Single studio apartments on beautiful grounds with pool, jacuzzi, gym, nail salon, small convenience store, tennis court, swimming lessons
    All utilities paid
    Free shuttle buses for transport to work, shopping (16 different malls and souks)
    inexpensive car service/cab available
    no safety issues (this city is very laid back and cool)
    its not like on CNN, its very modern, esp the malls, same stores as U.S.
    nurses scuba dive ALOT here
    social club offered at the hospital to book activities
    we have cell phones and cable satellite
    We don't have to wear our hair covered but do have to wear an abaya(robe) when not on apt complex or hospital grounds

    The ratios are the same here as back home, but most of the units do primary nursing. We have to rotate shifts from day to night every 3 weeks, or you can have a shift buddy if you prefer so you can swap during rotation. I prefer day shift so when its time to rotate, I keep her day shift and she can stay on night shift permanently. We wear all white uniforms, provided by the hospital, except O.R. wears green scrubs. Most of the patients speak arabic but have a family member that speaks english, or we have a coordinator to grab to translate.
    I know people think its not worth it, but trust me pocketing $70 k and not paying rent,insurance, or utilities for a year is SOOOOO WORTH IT!! My salary in California is $89k/year, but I never see it between taxes, rent, bills, etc.

    Also I get to travel to nearby places like Egypt and Dubai without using my vacation time. I've made some great friends from other countries and learned alot. Most of the girls I've met here came on a one year contract but ended up staying for alot longer , anywhere from 4-10 years. If you don't like it here you always have the option to break your contract and leave, but you have to pay for your airfare home.
    When you first get here, you don't go straight to work. You have classroom orientation for almost 2 weeks, then 2 weeks of floor orientation. I must say I'm not in love with primary nursing, but I guess American nurses are a bit spoiled lol. My coworkers are all friendly so I enjoy my unit. However, there is no such thing as home health, palliative, or hospice care. Well, only some of the richer families can afford home health, so you may find patients refusing to be discharged after the doctor has cleared them to go home. The government picks up the tab so the hospital lets them stay. Sometimes for years...Anyway, overall I love my experience here so far. I hope I've answered your questions with my small novel :-)
    DizzyLizzyNurse, LovedRN, a_damsel, and 4 others like this.
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    What do you mean by primary nursing?

    p.s.: I thought patients not nurses were spoilt in America. We nurses here too are just glorified maids.
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    Lol what I mean by "spoiled" is in America we do team nursing, meaning the RN has a nurse assistant to do vital signs, feed the patient, change the bed, empty foleys, etc. And we also have an IV team, RT,PT, lift team, social worker, etc. Here in Saudi we do what's called primary nursing, which is the RN is solely responsible for all of the above.

    What country are you working in as a glorified maid?
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    The US of A, of course.
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    So you have to do all that by yourself with no help with the same patient load as the US? That is a lot. So then how is it low stress?
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    I actually worked in a Rehab here, where we did all that, including showering patients, with 7 to 8 patients a piece. What happened in reality was, that the 9 a.m. med pass spilled into 11:00 a.m. because you were busy showering people and changing beds. The DON did not last long and they had to hire some CNAs. Yup, we had to hand out and pick up trays too. Stupid. Why pay someone $30 to do do that when you can pay $8 to one extra kitchen staff and let them do it?
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    I think it depends on the type of unit you work on. My max ratio is 4:1, but we usually have 2-3 patients. I tell the patients that are able to bathe themselves, or let their family members assist. There are anywhere from 2-8 family members in the room at all times. So it only gets trying when you have a total care patient. I work with a good group of nurses so we help each other out. Nobody will code if they take a late bath :-)
    However, I have worked on units where the ratios are 6:1, which will definately stress you out.
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    Hello Everyone,

    I read in a previous post that in KSA there are prejudices and American nurse is concsidered as a white american. Are there any African american nurses who worked in KSA? How was your experiences? Does it work to your advantage to be Muslim vs non- muslim? Also, I do believe I read that only single women are allowed, does that mean families would not be accepted even if you pay for your own lodging? Also may i please have the name of some agencies which hire in the middle east I am more looking to be in Dubai or Oman.

    Thank you
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