Nursing in France - Page 15
Register Today!- Aug 29, '09 by swampusaThis is my first visit to this site, DavidFR I read you topic on France and was wanting to know do you know of any international courses I should take to make employment their eaiser, I am an agency nurse and have been for 7yrs. any info you may have is appreciated thanks.
- Sep 3, '09 by benjiferHi guys,
I know that my kind are in the minority but was still wondering if anyone could shed any light on the situation for Learning Disabilities nursing in France?
I have been told that People with Learning Disabilities are lumped in with Psychiatric Patients, (my views on that shall reamin my own...) which leads me to wonder if my RN(LD) would even be recognised even though I have extensive MH experience. I specialise in ASD by the way..
Any help would be appreciated! - Nov 24, '09 by JessicaNCHey everyone,
I'm currently a first year RN student at Laurentian university in sudbury, ontario.
Im really interested in going to France, for my last year, so im looking into a international program.
Does anyone know what to do?
I dont have very much to work with here, so im trying to find answers.
Id love to move to France and work there, I do not plan on staying in Canada.
What do I do, to complete this?
any information will help, thanks!
-Jessica - Nov 24, '09 by akdennis58The information I have gotten in the past from others indicates it's very difficult for foreign trained nurses to relocate to France for work. My understanding is that it would require a year or more of training in one of their nursing programs and a very advanced capability in the French language. For informational purposes, you might try this website to start getting some info: infirmiers.com (I have no connection with that website other than being a member). I'm in the process of obtaining in registration in the UK so that I can work in England and spend some of my free time in France; sort of a roundabout way to spend some time there. Good luck.
- Nov 24, '09 by JessicaNCThank you,
I don't think it will be that difficult though, I'm already in a france university.
Ive obtained all my education in french.
Although, you are right about the extra year or two in their training.
I also heard something about a different enterance exam to see where you are in the nursing field? -
- Nov 24, '09 by akdennis58So the language will be the least of your difficulties then. Yes, that's what I've heard. I've heard that you would have to take an exam to evaluate your education in the field and that a person would still likely be required to take a year of training in one of their education programs before being allowed to practise. You should enjoy that website I mentioned; it's in French.
- Nov 25, '09 by Silverdragon102Quote from JessicaNCI would suggest you check that it is OK to do your final years training in another country/university. French nurse training may be done differently to Canada which may have an impact on qualifyingHey everyone,
I'm currently a first year RN student at Laurentian university in sudbury, ontario.
Im really interested in going to France, for my last year, so im looking into a international program.
Does anyone know what to do?
I dont have very much to work with here, so im trying to find answers.
Id love to move to France and work there, I do not plan on staying in Canada.
What do I do, to complete this?
any information will help, thanks!
-Jessica - Nov 26, '09 by *****guest*****hi , i am new to this site. I am planning to move to France, possibly in the south. i am a psyhiatric nurse with 14 years experience and trained in Uk. Is it easy to find a job in the Public hospitals? I would appreciate any help. Thanks
- Feb 15, '10 by IncantatemQuote from DavidFRI've lived and worked in France since 2001.
To register your qualification here you need to go in person to your local health and social security department (listed in the yellow pages as the DDASS). You must speak fluent French, and if you don't you will be refused registration as an IDE (Infirmier Diplômé d'Etat). People with European Union qualifications have the right to register straight off. You must present your original certificates with a French translation stamped by an official interpreter approved by your embassy. Others often need to work as Aide Soignants (nurses aides, care assistants) while they work for the French qualification.
Compared to my homeland (the UK) nursing here is paradise. They think they have a crisis, but it's nothing compared to the UK. The public health system here repeatedly comes top of international league tables and it's easy to see why. It's well funded and well resourced. Things such as waiting lists for surgery just don't exist as they do in the UK.
Everyone in France works a 35 hour week. Holiday entitlements are good (around six weeks plus the 13 public holidays). Pay is not amazing, but you earn enough to live on and the benefits are good (pension, travel allowance etc.) Public hospitals have a reputation for paying better than private clinics, who often skimp to make their profit. The public sector functions in an almost "money no object" fashion, which is beginning to change. Taxes here are high, but you get what you pay for - a good health service, good schools, excellent public transport and civic amenities.
Most nurses work a fixed shift (mornings, afternoons or nights) with some places having implemented the long day/night (12 hours). Your meal breaks are paid, and many hospitals provide you with a free meal on duty. Very few places have shift rotation between night and day like in the UK. You're usually either a morning nurse, an afternoon nurse or a night nurse. IDE (registered nurse) levels are low but you always have a good number of Aide soignants to support you, and they are trained to a high level - they can generally be trusted to get on with the basic care. The nurses job here is more focused on the technical tasks - drugs, IVs, bloods etc. Nursing here is still very task orientated (something I personally like). Nurses here are very efficient, but perhaps lack the 'personal touch' of anglo-saxon culture. It's a different relationship here - the patient sees you more as a professional and maintains an almost formal respect which I think British patients no longer have.
In larger cities agency nursing is possible and is well paid. The shortage of nurses here means there is always agency work. Recruitment of foreign nurses is becoming increasingly common.
Many nurses here set up in their own practices (Infirmiers libérals) You go to these nurses with all your prescptions for things like dresings, injections etc. Practice nurses don't exist and less happens in outpatients than in the UK, so these nurses fulfil that role, as well as providing homecare like the British district nurse.
If you speak English there are increasingly opprtunities for bi-lingual nurses in international companies and NGO's. There are both an American and a Franco-British hospital just outside Paris catering largely to ex-pats. Bi-lingual posts always pay better, you can really sell your English here, but you must speak good French too.
Personally, I love life here and would recomend it to anybody. The French, I feel, get an unfairly bad press abroad. Once you penetrate this society you realise what a warm race of people they are. The pace of life here (even in Paris) is slow and civilised. There is a very rich cultural life here and the food and wine of course are unbeatable. Working life is very civilised; due to the socialist cullture and strong unions things are very much weighted in the employees favour. Nursing care here is good; medical standards are high. I would say go for it.
I am currently becoming fluent in french thanks to several years of courses and such, always wanted to work in France, but can you please let me know if there is a "nursing board" in France that oversees all nurses in the country? Exactly what is the process to apply for a license to work? I'm slightly confused. Thank you.