Is WGU just another money muncher? - page 3

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I am (was) due to begin the RN-MSN, edu on 5-1. I have jumped threw all the hoops that is the admissions process. I am so disappointed to find out that the only classes I got credit for with my associates degree are one math,... Read More


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    Quote from msa9179
    I have to chime in here and add another thought. I already have a bachelor's degree in a non-nursing subject and have been working on my BSN online (not WGU, another program, thinking of switching to WGU). Even with a bachelor's degree, and a AS/RN, I still had other classes beyond just core nursing classes to take. The advancement from an associates degree to a bachelor's degree is not just a matter of taking more "core classes." I believe you can always expect to have other peripheral requirements (histories, englishes, arts, maths, hours filled by electives, etc) when advancing from associates to bachelors. So, personally, from someone who spent 4 straight years of full-time study to obtain a bachelor's degree, I do not feel like having a 2-year degree plus 7 classes (either squeezed into 6 months, or drawn out over 2 years) necessarily constitutes the full work-load that is deserving of a bachelor's degree. Now, don't get me wrong. I am applying to WGU right now to attempt to "fast track" my way to a BSN, and I will be joyful for any classes I do not have to take. I am not being critical of WGU, but if I felt that WGU awarded a bachelor's degree to someone who has an associates degree, plus a few classes, then I would seek my education elsewhere. Again, I am not being judgemental and I do not know everyone's specific situation/associates degree work/prerequisites/etc, but it is my opinion that if you want to earn a real bachelor's degree, it takes a lot of classes.


    just following up on my previous post.....even with my bachelor's degree, ADN, and a healthy portion of other classes I have taken here and there, I too will have prereqs outside of the nursing core classes....including Anatomy & Physiology. I took A&P at Excelsior (without a lab), and they informed me that I have to do the whole thing over again, not just the lab portion. As many others have said here, A bachelor's degree requires a lot of credits, and even though you may have to "jump through hoops" and possibly retake classes, WGU still appears (to me at least) to be the fastest way to a BSN, if you are motivated to accelerate through it. Any other traditional classrooom-setting style program or even another online program will still probably require somewhere around 70 credits on top of your associates degree to complete a bachelors. Oh, and I also have to retake statistics because it is more than 5 years old. So, we all face a little bit of that, to some extent. Good luck with your studies. I encourage you to hang in there and do it, whether it is through WGU or through another program. It will be worth it, and whichever way you go, you should be able to finish and feel proud of the work you have done to earn your degree. Hang in there, you will do great. Sometimes these things are just a matter of picking a direction to go, and then just going that direction, however long it takes, and however many obstacles there are. Just remember, if there were no obstacles, and it was easy, then everyone would have a bachelor's degree (or MSN if that is what you are pursuing), and it would mean nothing! I like to make the comparison.....they just practically hand out drivers licenses if you sit through the class. But if (or rather, when) you finish your MSN, you will have something to really be proud of, and you will know that you earned it for real.
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    Quote from msa9179

    just following up on my previous post.....even with my bachelor's degree, ADN, and a healthy portion of other classes I have taken here and there, I too will have prereqs outside of the nursing core classes....including Anatomy & Physiology. I took A&P at Excelsior (without a lab), and they informed me that I have to do the whole thing over again, not just the lab portion. As many others have said here, A bachelor's degree requires a lot of credits, and even though you may have to "jump through hoops" and possibly retake classes, WGU still appears (to me at least) to be the fastest way to a BSN, if you are motivated to accelerate through it. Any other traditional classrooom-setting style program or even another online program will still probably require somewhere around 70 credits on top of your associates degree to complete a bachelors. Oh, and I also have to retake statistics because it is more than 5 years old. So, we all face a little bit of that, to some extent. Good luck with your studies. I encourage you to hang in there and do it, whether it is through WGU or through another program. It will be worth it, and whichever way you go, you should be able to finish and feel proud of the work you have done to earn your degree. Hang in there, you will do great. Sometimes these things are just a matter of picking a direction to go, and then just going that direction, however long it takes, and however many obstacles there are. Just remember, if there were no obstacles, and it was easy, then everyone would have a bachelor's degree (or MSN if that is what you are pursuing), and it would mean nothing! I like to make the comparison.....they just practically hand out drivers licenses if you sit through the class. But if (or rather, when) you finish your MSN, you will have something to really be proud of, and you will know that you earned it for real.
    A&P with lab (at the same time) is pretty standard at any school... Just sayin'
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    Quote from ShyeoftheTiger
    A&P with lab (at the same time) is pretty standard at any school... Just sayin'

    I know. The whole reason I did Excelsior was due to time limitations.....family, 2 jobs, etc. I was never going to find my way into a traditional classroom program to bridge from LVN to RN. So, the day I signed up for Excelsior and their A&P credits, I knew there would come a day that I would have to retake A&P with a lab if I planned on furthering my education. my point is just that I have to retake everything, not just take the lab portion.
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    I am starting in May and will have 17 classes (according to my calculations). I am still waiting for my orientation to open... There was only one class that I thought I should have been given credit for but am figuring that I may learn something so I am not letting it hold me back. I think that getting this education is necessary and I will not let any hiccups along the way get me off track.
    I wish the best for you and hope you decide to stick with it!
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    Just wanted to update everyone...
    They re-evaluated my transcripts and credited me for a few more classses.
    So, I have gone from needing 146 cu's to complete the msn, to 86. I am happy with that and I'm excited to get started in becoming a part of the WGU family. Thank you everyone who took the time to lend me your "ears".
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    Glad to hear it OP. How long do you think it will take and how much will it cost for your Masters?
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    Quote from CrunchRN
    Glad to hear it OP. How long do you think it will take and how much will it cost for your Masters?
    It's really hard to tell at this point because I have no idea what it's going to be like. I know they no longer allow for the capstone to be completed with a persons first term. I'm roughly guessing from RN-MSN maybe three years? I'm obsessive about school work, so hopefully I can power threw it. So, the cost is 3250 plus 145 (3,395.00) per term, times 6 terms, comes to 20,370. Not bad considering thats for 2 degrees, BSN and MSN.
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    Good luck. FWIW, it will take me 3 years to complete both degrees (with a 6-month break taken between the two). I finished my BSN in three terms, and plan to do the same with my MSN.
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    OP, glad you made some good progress on the re-evaluations. Good luck with everything! I am shooting to start June 1 myself. Considering going for the MSN as well instead of just the BSN. As always, keep everybody updated on your progress and experiences!
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    WOW!! from146 to 86!! Yes, I think someone screwed up on their end!! Thats what I need for the MSN too! I am on my 5th course of study since March 1st!! You will have your BSN in 6 months and the MSN 12 months later if you "power through". Good for you, you are gonna love it! Oh and if you can do it in 3 terms the cost is just over 10K!! for 2 degrees!!


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