Reasons Hospitals Will Not Have Traveler Back? - page 2
by adoula | 5,052 Views | 20 Comments
I just turned 60 years old and am in good health. I am a neonatal ICU nurse with 35 years of experience. I have a BSN plus a number of years of graduate school. I have been traveling for 5 years. I have never had any complaints... Read More
- 0May 17, '12 by Patti_RNIt's horrible this happened to you. There really is no way to know why you weren't hired; yes, it could be age discrimination, or it could be the director's cousin wanted the job. Not only do you not know the reason, but it's unlikely you'll ever find out.
There are other reasons (more plausible) that you weren't called back. It could be something as simple as the rate your agency charges compared to the rate other agencies charge. If the hospital's cost for having you there is $100/hour* and they can get another agency nurse for $85/hour, they'll choose the cheaper one. Or, the hospital filled many of those jobs by hiring employees rather than using travelers so you were competing with more travelers for fewer spots.
We always tend to take these things personally when it happens to us--and sometimes it IS personal (or a mistake as Boston Terrier experienced). But, more often these are financial decisions, or general policy decisions that have little or nothing to do with the individual involved.
*To anyone reading '$100/hour' this is NOT the compensation the individual receives by traveling. It's the total cost paid to the agency to have a nurse work at their facility. That money gets divided into pay/compensation, airfare, apartment costs, and agency fees, etc. So, new nurses, student nurses, or others who aren't familiar... don't expect to get a traveling job and make $100/ hour!
- 1May 17, '12 by llg Guide[QUOTE=Patti_RN;6496508]We always tend to take these things personally when it happens to us--and sometimes it IS personal (or a mistake as Boston Terrier experienced). But, more often these are financial decisions, or general policy decisions that have little or nothing to do with the individual involved.
Excellent point. The reasons for not asking the OP to return may have nothing to do with her. My hospital has a policy limiting the amount of time any individual travel can work in our institution without taking time away from us. That is to prevent people who want to work for us on a regular basis from coming as a more expensive traveler rather than take a budgeted position.
The intent of the policy is, "If you want to work for us for more than a couple of months, apply for one of our jobs!" It has nothing to do with whether or not we like a particular person, age discrimination, or anything like that. We just don't want half our staff to become "permanent travelers" working here costing us more than they would if they were employed by us. I've known lots of hospitals to have similar policies.
- 1Quote from adoulaAgeism Is alive and well in nursing. It has everything to do with your age.It has nothing to do whatsoever to do with How you look, but how much experience you have. You probably make top dollar even for agency and whether you know it or not agencies will charge more for experienced nurses. The staff has absolutely NO input these days in the hiring back of certain contracted personel.....it has everything to do with MONEY.......and at our age, the odds of us becomming ill and costing the facility money is greater.I did not get fired or anything and there were no complaints or anything about the care I gave. I just wondered why. I, too, have extended multiple times other places. As far as the hair. It is so thick and course, (though well cut), that it does not keep permanent color in for more than two weeks. That is why I stopped. My hair color is even, not yellowish, and looks good with my skin tone. Even if I did color it, one cannot hide their age. I am not planning to have plastic surgery any time soon, especially to fulfill someone's idea of what other nurses think I should look like. There are quite a few nurses in the units I have worked that are around my age and do not look as good as I do, anyway. I was surprised because a number of staff emailed me and ask if I would return to help them...Oh well, thanks for your input. In fact, I received compliments and notes about my care.???
Another nurse that got "laid off" when I did has been under employed and unemployed for 4 years. It has NOTHING to do with your skill.
I too have been shocked and hurt by the profession I love so much and have spent a lifetime studying and excelling in when I became ill and it dumped me to the cirb so fast.....I remain in litigation forthe benefits I paid for........Congrats P_RN for winning your lawsuit.
- 1Quote from brandy1017It depends on the contract and how crappy the facility wants to be and how hard you are willing to or can afford to fight.So did you quit working over an injury or illness and than they tried to deny you your pension? But once you got a lawyer you were able to get it reinstated. I've heard of older workers being let go on pretexts and always wondered if you lose your pension?
- 1May 17, '12 by caliotter3I had negative incidents concerning age when I was in my early 40's, so I would have to say it is quite possible that you are being treated this way because of your age, but I would chalk it up to other factors first. Unless you find out the reason, you will have to assume they found someone else that they preferred.
- 1May 17, '12 by adoulaThanks to all of you for your input. I cannot reply to the very helpful private message someone left for me. I live in beautiful Lexington, Ky and am retired from the major teaching hospital here. I saw an opportunity for one of those positions that the private messager mentioned. It was already filled. I am going to keep in touch with them as I can work a lot from home using my extensive NICU/peds background.
I did get a call back for an assignment in Va. I am buzzed. I have not been active on this board for quite a while so I must post more to be able to send a private message back.
To that person who sent the message...you have no idea how much I appreciate your comments. Bless you BIG.
- 0May 17, '12 by BostonTerrierLoverRNThank-you for bringing this to our attention, the more who realize this is a growing problem, the more awareness that can be drawn to the issue.
Honestly, I had overlooked this happening with racism, sexism, discrimination r/t religion/creed, but didn't realize this was happening. We will all be where you are now, and it's work like your post that will kindle a flame! Thanks again for making this known. I hope you find a position soon where all your skills and experience can be appreciated!