Someone from St. Mary's University of MN? - page 2

I've been accepted into the Nurse Anesthesia Program for 2011, and I'd like to know how time off/vacation works at St. Mary's during the classes and clinicals. Thanks!:up:... Read More

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    Quote from ksjayhawks
    Skip, not accepted yet. Although a positive attitude can go a long way. Thank you fr the information regarding employment opportunities for my wife as well. With you experience at SMU 5 years ago, do you feel you came into a welcoming environment? Did you feel like the faculty and clinical staff were there to invest there time with the goal in you becomming successfull in their program? Graduates from ther larger schools have made comments implying the student is just a number and attrition rate is high. The faculty at SMU has been extrordinarily welcoming thus far, but its always good to hear it from an indiviual with personal experience.
    I totally agree. Some, not all, of the larger schools I've applied to have been flat out rude to me,
    despite a pretty nice resume.
    This means they will probably act the same way during the program.

    St. Mary's has been very professional and warm with me in the communications I have
    received from them.

    Yep, I live out west. Not many school out here that are appealing to me. Best of luck to you!

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    Thanks for the info Tahoe. I have wondered with other schools as well, about the rudeness. I was trying to determine if it had anything to do with them recieveing 100 calls daily. Although I am looking for a program whom will have patience with their students and I believe if it's not shown indirectly, then it will probably be no diffierent in any other circumstance.
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    I have heard from more than a few students that this program is a disaster...
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    I attended this program in previous years. Unfortunately, I was one of the outliers as far as students and didn't graduate. The program is front loaded with most academic classes the first year. Anesthesia concepts are put into practice during an introductory clinical- 1 day/ week in Surgery dept. No guarentee you'll be in OR more than 5-6 days out of 18. The lucky ones go to Regions. The clinical program in the second year offers many great experiences at a variety of sites. Many places have great preceptors, but there are those who like to see students flonder. If you demonstrate problems clinically, your improvement depends on clinical sites and preceptors. The school definitely be more supportive. Its not a disaster, but its a contrast to other programs in town. Feel free to PM me.
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    Skip. It sounds like you went through a lot with that program. I am sorry to hear that you
    did not finish? If you don't mind me asking what do you think contributed to you not finishing?
    Thanks for your insight.
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    It was a combination of self-doubt, listening too much to negative providers, and death of family member. Saying the wrong thing at the wrong time around a p@ssed off surgeon.
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    I am sorry to hear. hope everything work out for you.
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    I was dismissed from this program with 12 weeks remaining in the program. I am now in contact with other students spanning 17 years (yes seventeen! and the list I have acquired is growing!) at this school and I have found that it is generally common for this to happen. The significance of this late dismissal is that most of the credits, and thus expenses, occur at the beginning of this program. Thus, in my case, I had three remaining credits. In other words, I had already taken 61 credits of this program. Furthermore, the first event that lead to my dismissal involved a site that has a history of being very very hard on students. In my case I was screamed in the OR while I was intubating a patient. Intubations are probably the most sensitive intervention anesthetists do. There were also some very overt miscommunications to me via the syllabus and clinical educators from the school. WHen I told the Dean of this school, and the clinical director, the did not advocate on my behalf in any way whatsoever. They immediately placed me on probation, and deferred to the screaming belligerent doctor as the "expert," and thus worthy of absolute deference. In so many words, I was shocked.
    As I have found, spanning many years, my treatment is not uncommon. The school does very little, if anything, to help students, which one would think would be the goal of education. If you have any special needs, if you are an older student with a family, or if you feel like you may need help during your school, this program is NOT for you.
    Though not advertised, the attrition rate at this school is always at least 10%. That means at least 4 students WILL NOT graduate. I have accounts of students having a job and being within weeks of graduation being dismissed. Even with support from the potential employer, the school would not graduate this person. YIKES!
    If I knew then what I know now, I would not have gone to this school. If this was the only school I got accepted to, and I knew this information, I would continue to apply, or pursue a different specialty.
    Finally, please know that when you get so far along in a program that requires you to be a full-time student, you will also accrue a huge financial burden. In my case, as in most others I am in communication with, the debt with 1 or 2 semester left is over $100,000. I have $120,000, and I am older. Going to another program and spending the time and money may not be realistic. Therefore, I will have monthly payments that may cause me to lose my house, etc.
    At times I feel totally helpless. But, most of the time I feel like justice needs to be served. Maybe the best justice, for me, would be that people see this school as it is, a profiteer, and choose NOT to apply here. If you do, GODSPEED TO YOU!!!!!
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    I graduated from the program several years ago and I can assure anyone that applies that if you get dismissed from the program it is either academic (which you can come back the next year and retake the class. (at least in the past it was)) or because you are not cutting it as a provider period!!!! The school wants you to graduate but they do not want to graduate incompetence as YOU represent CRNAs everywhere. We don't want mediocre providers out there providing anesthesia to anyone. When you are in the program keep your mouth shut and do your job in a safe and competent manner and you will have zero problems. Stay off the Dean's radar and you will have no problems. It is a good school although I believe the anesthesia part back then was more self study. The A&P part by scott schauss is I believe the best in the country. The guy is phenomenal!!!! Study, mind your own business, and staff of everyone's radar and you will do fine. Remember when you bath mouth anybody ANYWHERE it will get back to the program director. SO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!!! I cannot over emphasize this.
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    As a future student to this school, reading Yikes75's comments makes me nervous. I appreciate 22gawhitacre's advice though. I have read this type of advice from students in other CRNA programs, so I am sure these types of issues are not SMU specific. I guess I'll find out for sure next year.

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