New England Tech in Warwick, RI - page 5
I was wondering if anyone had any information about this school. Their program is fairly new and not accredited as of yet. So, im kinda skeptical about this program. It would be nice if someone... Read More
Dec 3, '10I don't understand..What vendetta do you have towards New England Tech? You're getting real rude about it. Is it because they are still in the accreditation process? Do you not understand that ANY new program must go through this process? Trying to understand here...
Dec 5, '10I was just wondering, for those of you that currently attend NETI. i was just wondering what your class schedule was like..what time do you start classes etc..
Dec 5, '10To BellaLee1023 : you sound very angry for some reason, if you think your school is better and you would never go to NEIT, then what are you so angry about, and what do you care? Personally, I currently attend NEIT and I am happy with my decision, it is what is right for me and my family. Your situation is obviously right for you, If you are becoming a nurse than maybe you should remember the various types of people, personalities, and situations that people have and not to use your own bias in your career !!
I am enjoying my decision to attend NEIT, and if anyone has any questions about the program (legitimate questions and not unwarranted complaints) please feel free to contact me ! : )
Dec 6, '10Im sorry you feel like I am being rude. Did you know the ANA is trying to make the BSN the MINIMUM degree of education to practice nursing? I agree with them. My response was to kncktc and no one else. I am just stating facts. I understand that every new nursing proram is not acredited until the first class graduates, why would you pay more for less though? To each their own
CNABESS.... As for your sons degree from NE Tech, thats excellent for him but we arent talking about graphic design. I think CCRI is a good school for nursing Ive worked with their students and for the most part they are good, but they are still being overlooked for jobs in comparision with a nurse who has a BSN, thats the point Im trying to make. I know this because I have friends who have had this exact problem. Now if you are a new graduate from NE Tech's fast track program compared to someone with their ADN , and then compared with someone who has their BSN , it just seeems like thats the bottom of the totem pole for the most amount of money.
Manda and Britt, I do not have a "vendetta" against the school, my first thought is about the impact this "fast track" nursing program will have on patient care, to answer your question, thats why I care and if you think your level of education doesnt effect patient care then I hope you do learn that in your nursing theory class, does NE tech have a theory class? What is your plan of study? (I really am curious) My response and "unwarranted complaints" were to kncktc, not you! So if you are an educated well prepared nurse, certainly nothing I say should make you feel like you are not, and if it does perhaps you are lacking confidence, Im sorry you feel like I was angry with you but I wasnt responding to you lol soooo....anything else?
"The 2008 ANA House of Delegates RESOLVED, that the American Nurses Association support initiatives to require registered nurses (RNs) to obtain a baccalaureate degree in nursing within ten years after initial licensure, exempting (grand-parenting) those individuals who are licensed or enrolled as a student in a nursing program at the time legislation is enacted; and be it further RESOLVED, that the American Nurses Association advocates for and promotes legislative and educational activities that support advanced education in nursing. ANA's efforts to influence nursing education date back to 1965.
Brief History of ANA's Position on Nursing Education
Passage of the Comprehensive Nurse Training Act in 1964 prompted the American Nurses Association (ANA) Committee on Education to study nursing education, practice and scope of responsibilities. At the time, the study recognized the increasing complexity of health care and changes in practice, raising concerns about hospital - based diploma education programs. Subsequently, in 1965, the ANA Board of Directors adopted the Committee on Education's statement, which became ANA's "position paper" and contained the recommendation that the "minimum preparation for beginning professional nursing practice should be baccalaureate degree education in nursing. The position paper noted that the educational programs of the time prepared workers for current practice and structures, not for the future. Also contained within the position paper was the description of three levels of nursing education: baccalaureate education for beginning nursing practice, associate degree education for beginning technical nursing practice, and vocational education for assistants in the health service occupations.
The 1965 ANA position paper was later reaffirmed by a 1978 ANA House of Delegates resolution which resulted in the recommendation that by 1985 the minimum preparation for entry into professional practice would be the baccalaureate degree. The designation of two levels of nursing practice, professional and technical, was reaffirmed. What was envisioned to be an orderly transition to an educational system of two levels and subsequent differentiated practice never occurred.
Practice has continued to evolve with increased specialization, greater demands related to technology, paperwork, and responsibility for coordinating and supervising care provided by other workers. Declining reimbursement rates have had a great influence on staffing patterns. Nurse positions have been eroded with nurse extenders (assistive personnel) filling positions previously designated for nurses; leading to fewer nurses supervising more assistive personnel in provision of care for increasingly complex patients."Last edit by BellaLee0103 on Dec 6, '10
Dec 6, '10It is also known that….
- Research has revealed the relationship between advanced education and patient outcomes, such as lower patient mortality.
- Baccalaureate prepared nurses are more likely to report higher job satisfaction scores in relation to opportunities for growth, and to remain in practice longer than others.
- Increasingly more complex healthcare needs of a multi cultural and aging population underscores the need for advanced education.
- A stronger theoretical base and foundation in nursing research is needed as a result of the shift to evidenced based practice and expansion of more sophisticated technologies, pharmacologic and other treatment modalities.
- Sound leadership skills are essential for case management, as well as to support the ability to delegate and supervise care provided by dependent practitioners (LPNs) and nurse extenders within the framework of varying care delivery models.
- There is a shortage of nursing faculty and subsequent limited cadre of nurses from which to draw.
- Advanced education will better enable nurses to practice as full partners on a multidisciplinary team, given the education advancement of a number of other health professions: Social workers - master’s degree; Physical therapists – master’s degree in 2002, doctoral required by 2020; Pharmacists – PharmD has replaced the bachelor of pharmacy degree.
- The military (US Army, Navy and Air Force) require a baccalaureate degree for nurses on active duty. The Veteran’s Health Administration requires a baccalaureate degree for nurses wishing to advance beyond entry level appointment. Internationally, the baccalaureate degree in nursing is required upon entry into the profession in the Philippines, Australia, Ireland, and half of Canada’s provinces. The Royal College of Nurses voted to support a transition to require a university degree for professional nursing practice.
- A recommendation that at least 2/3 of the nursing workforce hold a baccalaureate degree or higher by 2010 was presented to Congress by the National Advisory Council on Nursing Education and Practice (a group appointed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services)
Dec 6, '10Personally, I am not in the fast track. The fast track is for students who have completed all general education classes and have gotten a B or better in them. And I believe most of us are planning on moving on to a BSN as soon as we graduate. However, it's not very nice to look down upon ADN registered nurses. CCRI is only an associates program too and they do just fine.
Dec 6, '10I am a fast track student and I am SUPER CONFIDENT that I and the rest of my class will be excellent providers and advocates for our patients.
I think that considering the amount of time and energy a specific person has put into this thread trying to make a point, I am not the one lacking confidence. How much and how many times do you have to say something to convince yourself that what your saying is true??
Nurses are suppose to work together, and I find that there are so many students so thirsty for success they will crush as many people's dreams as they have to in order to be on top. This is a sad world we live in. I Personally applaud all Nursing students whether it be diploma, associate, or bachelors students.
Maybe if you understood how hard we all work in the fast track program and what we are going through you would understand. Maybe you should call the director of the nursing program and speak with her about the fast track program, and she will give you an update on our academics if you are so worried. 739-5000 ask for the director of the nursing dept, she is always willing to take a moment and explain what people don't understand.
Dec 6, '10BelleLee0103, My remarks concerning NE Tech and my son's graphic arts degree were to point out the fact that the school has an excellent reputation in many fields, so lets not assume that the nursing degree would be any different. Many people I know are attending the school for nursing and are thrilled with it. The fact that it is an ADN program is irrelevant, many will continue on I am sure. Just as many continue on from CCRI or go from LPN to RN to MSN after their initial degree. Let the school prove itself as it has in so many other fields, just as RIC, URI or any school has to do over time. The fact that RIC is well known for it's Education degree would not stop me from seeking any other type of degree in a school that has proven itself. Don't be so judgemental. You are offending some here by assuming they will not be well educated, and will be a lesser nurse. If the ANA requires all nurses to have a BSN, I am sure those who choose to will seek out that degree from any number of. Just allow others to make decisions based on what fits them best, as I am sure you did.
Dec 6, '10I never said anything negative about any ADN program, if you go back and read what I wrote I said I think the nurses from CCRI are very good. St Josephs even better...I think its hysterical how offended some of you have gotten lol what does it matter what I say anyway? Its my opinion, just like you have yours. The information I posted was stright from the ANA website, so it didnt take that long to post.
In fact the girl I was respnding too said that CCRI was and RIC were broke public with too many students per teachers, which simply isnt the truth and thats why I said anything to begin with
Good luck with school CNABESS, I appreciate your input, and am sorry if I offended people but my post was meant as a response to a person who hasnt even responded so my apologies. Certainly you can not assume that because NE Tech has a good graphic arts program that their nursing prgram is just as good, it very well may be but one major has nothing to do with other if you get what Im saying.Last edit by BellaLee0103 on Dec 6, '10
Dec 6, '10Manda, I posted 2 paragraphs and that didnt take me that long (as far as time and energy) , does it take you a long time to write two paragraphs? lol, if you dont like what it says take it up with ANA (I didnt say it , they did!) lol, I didnt just make that **** up or pull it out of my ass you know.If you read the post of the person that I was actually talking to (not you), then maybe you would understand why I was defensive of my choice. What kind of nurse do you want to be?
Britt, Why would you go the most expensive school to get your ADN if you could go to CCRI and then transfer to get your BSN? (I'm not saying this with any kind of attitude at all, Im actually just asking a question that no one has answered yet because in my opinion NE Tech is ripping you off)Last edit by BellaLee0103 on Dec 6, '10
Dec 6, '10BellaLee0103-
I go to CCRI and the prof I had for clinical last year also taught at URI and she said we were as equally prepared to be nurses and for the NCLEX as our counterparts at URI. Your "holier than thou attitude", "I'm better than you attitude" is the whole reason why there is so much lateral violence in nursing. We all take the same licensing exam. Taking western lit doesn't make you a better nurse. Some people may have life experience and the attitude that will make them great and far superior nurses than someone like you who obviously has so much hostility towards any other program than your own. Someone could have all the advanced degrees in the world and still lack people skills. I think you may need to review culture in your nursing text. Also, the ANA has been trying for about 30 plus years to make a BSN the minimum degree required. I also do not know where you get your information about BSN's over an ADN. I have a friend who graduated from CCRI last year and was hired at W&I over another nursing student from RIC's program. You are insulting, hostile and most liking a difficult person to work with. I can assure you that you will be working with some great, seasoned and in your opinion beneath you ADN nurses and you WILL need their help. So please bring your attitude down a notch, you were accepted to the RIC school of nursing not Yale or BU. It doesn't make you any smarter or better than the rest of us who chose our various programs to fit our lives. I'd love to see where you are in ten years and if your just as miserable as you are now. You'll definitely have to keep us updated your great endeavors.
Dec 7, '10One of the reasons I chose NEIT was because I recently moved from Boston and checked out many schools in the area. My first choice was originally RIC but I did not have chemistry done and I did not want to wait two semesters to get into the program. As for CCRI, you needed to take dosage and calc first and I had not taken that either. NEIT offered me a great financial aid package, and the program sounded like a good fit. I am very happy with my decision here, and I will be going back for my BSN shortly after I graduate.