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  1. BellaLee0103

    New England Tech in Warwick, RI

    Thats awesome Britt...I did not know that and now that I do I think its great, do they offer a variety of times for classes? I could totally understand someone paying more for a more flexible program as it is hard to find time for school with a job, family, kids life etc...are you commuting all the way from Boston?
  2. BellaLee0103

    New England Tech in Warwick, RI

    Thanks Britt I appreciate your non-violent response towards me and my questions and opinions lol I sincerley wish you well and good luck and I could understand why you made the decision you did :) Frogs: did you even read what I said about CCRI nurses and how good I thought they were? You sound very angry did I say something to you to offend you? I NEVER said ADN's were beneath me NOR do I think that. Simply go to the ANA website the information I posted is right there for all the world to see (you'll learn that in your nursing research class....oh wait , you dont have a nursing research class right?), This is not new information but obviously they dont teach it in ADN prgrams because who would want to learn about the advantages of having a BSN if you're in an ADN program?No, western lit does not make you a better nurse but I didnt take a normal western lit class I took Western Lit for Nursing Majors and learned a great deal about nurses and their roles in history, it was a very interesting class I would reccomend it to anyone interested in the history of the nursing profession. Do you want to do more research before you try to tell me what classes I take and you dont? you are the reason there is lateral violence, you just attacked me for absolutley no reason as I was not talking about CCRI except to say that I have had good experiences working with their students, and I keep my opinions to myself at work so please dont act like you know me ,this is a public message board , I have been working in healthcare for over 10 years. I said nursing students from CCRI were pretty good most of the time and here you are all BLAHBLAHBLAH my "holier than thou attitude"....ummmm WOW
  3. BellaLee0103

    New England Tech in Warwick, RI

    Manda, I posted 2 paragraphs and that didnt take me that long (as far as time and energy) , does it take you a long time to write two paragraphs? lol, if you dont like what it says take it up with ANA (I didnt say it , they did!) lol, I didnt just make that **** up or pull it out of my ass you know.If you read the post of the person that I was actually talking to (not you), then maybe you would understand why I was defensive of my choice. What kind of nurse do you want to be? Britt, Why would you go the most expensive school to get your ADN if you could go to CCRI and then transfer to get your BSN? (I'm not saying this with any kind of attitude at all, Im actually just asking a question that no one has answered yet because in my opinion NE Tech is ripping you off)
  4. BellaLee0103

    New England Tech in Warwick, RI

    I never said anything negative about any ADN program, if you go back and read what I wrote I said I think the nurses from CCRI are very good. St Josephs even better...I think its hysterical how offended some of you have gotten lol what does it matter what I say anyway? Its my opinion, just like you have yours. The information I posted was stright from the ANA website, so it didnt take that long to post. In fact the girl I was respnding too said that CCRI was and RIC were broke public schools with too many students per teachers, which simply isnt the truth and thats why I said anything to begin with Good luck with school CNABESS, I appreciate your input, and am sorry if I offended people but my post was meant as a response to a person who hasnt even responded so my apologies. Certainly you can not assume that because NE Tech has a good graphic arts program that their nursing prgram is just as good, it very well may be but one major has nothing to do with other if you get what Im saying.
  5. BellaLee0103

    New England Tech in Warwick, RI

    It is also known that…. Research has revealed the relationship between advanced education and patient outcomes, such as lower patient mortality. Baccalaureate prepared nurses are more likely to report higher job satisfaction scores in relation to opportunities for growth, and to remain in practice longer than others. Increasingly more complex healthcare needs of a multi cultural and aging population underscores the need for advanced education. A stronger theoretical base and foundation in nursing research is needed as a result of the shift to evidenced based practice and expansion of more sophisticated technologies, pharmacologic and other treatment modalities. Sound leadership skills are essential for case management, as well as to support the ability to delegate and supervise care provided by dependent practitioners (LPNs) and nurse extenders within the framework of varying care delivery models. There is a shortage of nursing faculty and subsequent limited cadre of nurses from which to draw. Advanced education will better enable nurses to practice as full partners on a multidisciplinary team, given the education advancement of a number of other health professions: Social workers - master’s degree; Physical therapists – master’s degree in 2002, doctoral required by 2020; Pharmacists – PharmD has replaced the bachelor of pharmacy degree. The military (US Army, Navy and Air Force) require a baccalaureate degree for nurses on active duty. The Veteran’s Health Administration requires a baccalaureate degree for nurses wishing to advance beyond entry level appointment. Internationally, the baccalaureate degree in nursing is required upon entry into the profession in the Philippines, Australia, Ireland, and half of Canada’s provinces. The Royal College of Nurses voted to support a transition to require a university degree for professional nursing practice. A recommendation that at least 2/3 of the nursing workforce hold a baccalaureate degree or higher by 2010 was presented to Congress by the National Advisory Council on Nursing Education and Practice (a group appointed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services)
  6. BellaLee0103

    New England Tech in Warwick, RI

    Im sorry you feel like I am being rude. Did you know the ANA is trying to make the BSN the MINIMUM degree of education to practice nursing? I agree with them. My response was to kncktc and no one else. I am just stating facts. I understand that every new nursing proram is not acredited until the first class graduates, why would you pay more for less though? To each their own CNABESS.... As for your sons degree from NE Tech, thats excellent for him but we arent talking about graphic design. I think CCRI is a good school for nursing Ive worked with their students and for the most part they are good, but they are still being overlooked for jobs in comparision with a nurse who has a BSN, thats the point Im trying to make. I know this because I have friends who have had this exact problem. Now if you are a new graduate from NE Tech's fast track program compared to someone with their ADN , and then compared with someone who has their BSN , it just seeems like thats the bottom of the totem pole for the most amount of money. Manda and Britt, I do not have a "vendetta" against the school, my first thought is about the impact this "fast track" nursing program will have on patient care, to answer your question, thats why I care :) and if you think your level of education doesnt effect patient care then I hope you do learn that in your nursing theory class, does NE tech have a theory class? What is your plan of study? (I really am curious) My response and "unwarranted complaints" were to kncktc, not you! So if you are an educated well prepared nurse, certainly nothing I say should make you feel like you are not, and if it does perhaps you are lacking confidence, Im sorry you feel like I was angry with you but I wasnt responding to you lol soooo....anything else? "The 2008 ANA House of Delegates RESOLVED, that the American Nurses Association support initiatives to require registered nurses (RNs) to obtain a baccalaureate degree in nursing within ten years after initial licensure, exempting (grand-parenting) those individuals who are licensed or enrolled as a student in a nursing program at the time legislation is enacted; and be it further RESOLVED, that the American Nurses Association advocates for and promotes legislative and educational activities that support advanced education in nursing. ANA's efforts to influence nursing education date back to 1965. Brief History of ANA's Position on Nursing Education Passage of the Comprehensive Nurse Training Act in 1964 prompted the American Nurses Association (ANA) Committee on Education to study nursing education, practice and scope of responsibilities. At the time, the study recognized the increasing complexity of health care and changes in practice, raising concerns about hospital - based diploma education programs. Subsequently, in 1965, the ANA Board of Directors adopted the Committee on Education's statement, which became ANA's "position paper" and contained the recommendation that the "minimum preparation for beginning professional nursing practice should be baccalaureate degree education in nursing. The position paper noted that the educational programs of the time prepared workers for current practice and structures, not for the future. Also contained within the position paper was the description of three levels of nursing education: baccalaureate education for beginning nursing practice, associate degree education for beginning technical nursing practice, and vocational education for assistants in the health service occupations. The 1965 ANA position paper was later reaffirmed by a 1978 ANA House of Delegates resolution which resulted in the recommendation that by 1985 the minimum preparation for entry into professional practice would be the baccalaureate degree. The designation of two levels of nursing practice, professional and technical, was reaffirmed. What was envisioned to be an orderly transition to an educational system of two levels and subsequent differentiated practice never occurred. Practice has continued to evolve with increased specialization, greater demands related to technology, paperwork, and responsibility for coordinating and supervising care provided by other workers. Declining reimbursement rates have had a great influence on staffing patterns. Nurse positions have been eroded with nurse extenders (assistive personnel) filling positions previously designated for nurses; leading to fewer nurses supervising more assistive personnel in provision of care for increasingly complex patients."
  7. BellaLee0103

    New England Tech in Warwick, RI

    Also...RIC's School of Nursing is anything but broke, we just recieved a very large grant. My clinical groups have never been over 7 students to a teacher, and my professors are awesome. Yes it is a difficult program to get into, IT SHOULD BE, but it is not impossible at all if you have a brain! The "LABS" at New England Tech maybe better, which I hope they would be for the insane amount of money they are charging, you better get the top of line SIM dummy! That being said...I get experience with simulation and most importantly REAL LIVE PATIENTS, you cant get that in a lab. Just out of curiosity where do you all plan on working? Forget hospitals or any outpatient clinics associated with hospitals, forget anything in the pediatric, maternity or critical care fields.
  8. BellaLee0103

    New England Tech in Warwick, RI

    This program is way too much money for an ADN, you may as well get your BSN and be more prepared and educated nurses. Is it true this school is not accredited? I feel like the people paying for this program should be warned its a rip off and you will never get a job in a field that is so competitive being from a non accredited school (not even as a student nurse). Its hard enough for ADN's to get hired right now. Lets put our thinking caps on here..... I go to RIC, we are the cheapest and the best in the state (check out our NCLEX pass rates) so if you think you get what you pay for you should do some "Evidence based research" I wouldnt want someone who paid way to much money so they could get through the program fast as my nurse, no thank you. I have great clinical experiences at RIC, I've passed meds, hung IV's, inserted and d/c foleys. I've participated in codes, saw multiple surgies (c section, cholycystectomy, retina repair, hernia repair) I've helped deliver (like caught the baby, cut the cord, APGAR's, vitals and medicated the baby) several vaginal births, given IM, SubQ and intradermal injections. My psych clinical was on a locked ward at the VA, I've been at RIH, Women and Infants, Hasbro and a clinic and middle school. Nursing is more than flying through some classes...seriously do your homework....critical thinking and evidence based research are a big part of nursing you should start practicing now.
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