SICK of BSN Pedestal - page 12

Get off the Pedestal with the whole BSN vs ADN thing. A fact this is overlooked is that ADN does the same job as BSN and passes the NCLEX. Everyone then cried ADN is uneducated blah blah. WHY dont we... Read More

  1. Visit  FaithGurl93 profile page
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    Quote from BostonFNP
    Good for you or good for the patient?
    Both. Everybody has their limit. I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF. If I were to try and go for BSN I'd come out frustrated angry nurse which would mess up the care I would have to give to the patients. SPEAKING FOR MYSELF. And from reading the post it seems that BSN is for those who intend to have more of a leadership role. I'm fine with the bedside care. I just love to help people. I don't believe that I have to go four years to be a good nurse.
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  2. Visit  redhead_NURSE98! profile page
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    Quote from Anoetos
    Because your experience with one nurse's incompetence necessarily implies a deficit on the part of a whole group.?

    When we do this sort of thing with skin color or religion it's called bigotry.
    Because that's exactly what they said.
  3. Visit  redhead_NURSE98! profile page
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    Quote from kalevra

    Let us unite and set one standard for entry.

    Why? Because people with higher degrees "make the rules?"

    North Dakota tried it. Worked out well for 'em.
  4. Visit  BostonFNP profile page
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    I still don't understand why any current nurse wouldn't want the educational bar raised for entry into the profession.

    I also don't understand, given that most ADN programs are close to (if not equal to) bachelor education in other professions, why current/future ADN students wouldn't want to a bachelor's degree for their work rather than an associate's degree.
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  5. Visit  kalevra profile page
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    Quote from redhead_NURSE98!
    Why? Because people with higher degrees "make the rules?"

    North Dakota tried it. Worked out well for 'em.
    Because setting one education standard for entry makes sense. It would squash all this in fighting so we can move on to more important matters.

    I bet there were a bunch of people that hated the idea of one standardized national Licensure test. Today we have the NCLEX, so why can't we have a standardized education for initial entry?
  6. Visit  kalevra profile page
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    Quote from Anoetos
    As long as the perception is that all nurses do is wipe butts, pass meds, carry out orders and chart, it's not likely to change.
    As long as we keep pulling each other back in the barrel, things are not likely to change.
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    Quote from kalevra
    As long as we keep pulling each other back in the barrel, things are not likely to change.
    Yes, I was talking about our self-perception.
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  8. Visit  redhead_NURSE98! profile page
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    Quote from kalevra
    Because setting one education standard for entry makes sense. It would squash all this in fighting so we can move on to more important matters.

    I bet there were a bunch of people that hated the idea of one standardized national Licensure test. Today we have the NCLEX, so why can't we have a standardized education for initial entry?
    Only place I see in fighting about this subject is allnurses.
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  9. Visit  mariebailey profile page
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    I was watching a scene from a re-run of Scrubs the other day. In that scene, Dr. Dorian asked Carla the nurse where she went to college. "Oh, I didn't go to college", she said. Then Dr. Dorian laughingly said, "Well don't tell my patients, but I didn't either." Carla was outraged by the comment. I love that comedy, & that line made me think.

    If there is a standard of education for medicine, there should be a standard of education for nursing.
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  10. Visit  mariebailey profile page
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    Quote from BlueDevil,DNP
    Let's give credit where credit is due.
    Thank you for this comment!
  11. Visit  BrandonLPN profile page
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    Quote from mariebailey
    I was watching a scene from a re-run of Scrubs the other day. In that scene, Dr. Dorian asked Carla the nurse where she went to college. "Oh, I didn't go to college", she said. Then Dr. Dorian laughingly said, "Well don't tell my patients, but I didn't either." Carla was outraged by the comment. I love that comedy, & that line made me think.If there is a standard of education for medicine, there should be astandard of education for nursing.
    Well, there IS a standard. It's just one you apparently don't approve of.
  12. Visit  BrandonLPN profile page
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    Quote from redhead_NURSE98!
    Only place I see in fighting about this subject is allnurses.
    I agree. Never once in the real world have I heard nurses arguing about this. And I used to work in a magnet hospital that's one of the biggest in the Midwest.
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  13. Visit  Bringonthenight profile page
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    In Aus we have a bachelor degree which will make you an RN and a diploma which will make you an EN/Div2 RN.

    I think as long as the US has BSN and ASN there will be a pedestal "us versus them" mentality. Its the same as the stupid RN vs. LPN never ending argument. Who cares just do your job.
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