LVNs say they are equal to RNs...how true is this? much more schooling... - Page 4

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  1. I too have been a LPN for many years 30 to be exact. I have heard several LPNs make the same statement regarding RNs. Yes, we do some of the same things but don't have all the responsibility of the RN. I am in the second year of the RN program and the critical thinking that I am learning is something I thought I was doing as a LPN. It sure is a different type of thinking. Yes we will get to do all the IV things and blood, chemo etc. but there is diffinently a difference.
  2. I haven't read any responses to the OP's original post, I can only imagine that we are re-hashing the same ole tired arguement...my only question is this, can we please, for the love of sweet baby Jesus....and my sanity please stop these "RN v. LPN" threads....please?...pretty please?.....
  3. okay...I just went back and read them all....makes me wanna get a good, let's stoke the fires, "LPN v. RN v. BSN Fight to the Death" thread is on the horizon...I can smell it....
  4. Please don't flame me, not trying to stoke the fires or beat any long dead horses. When I was a scrub tech it initially was a matter of practicality when I decided RN over LPN school. Because specifically in OR terms that meant unless I became an RN, I still could not circulate and would still be only a little better off than I was before except for a slight increase in pay but no additional responsibilities in spite of new knowledge that I would learn as an LPN. So RN school was something for me that was not as limiting career-wise, financially and if I left the OR, other doors would be opened. I assume this is an AORN recommendation which all hospitals follow and that is only an RN can circulate and being in charge of an OR. I'm not going to address how it's done in the military, only civilian world because they are different. Whether we like it or not, hierarchy in healthcare has and always will exist. Respect and appreciation of each person's role and responsibilities is the essence of what being part of the kind of teamwork which makes for excellent patient are. We all have unique and special talents but as job roles evolve they blur our previous understanding of what it means to be a nurse, a tech, and the rest of the alphabet soup initials that make up healthcare.
  5. Quote from elgin1962
    Please don't flame me, not trying to stoke the fires or beat any long dead horses. When I was a scrub tech it initially was a matter of practicality when I decided RN over LPN school. Because specifically in OR terms that meant unless I became an RN, I still could not circulate and would still be only a little better off than I was before except for a slight increase in pay but no additional responsibilities in spite of new knowledge that I would learn as an LPN. So RN school was something for me that was not as limiting career-wise, financially and if I left the OR, other doors would be opened. I assume this is an AORN recommendation which all hospitals follow and that is only an RN can circulate and being in charge of an OR. I'm not going to address how it's done in the military, only civilian world because they are different. Whether we like it or not, hierarchy in healthcare has and always will exist. Respect and appreciation of each person's role and responsibilities is the essence of what being part of the kind of teamwork which makes for excellent patient are. We all have unique and special talents but as job roles evolve they blur our previous understanding of what it means to be a nurse, a tech, and the rest of the alphabet soup initials that make up healthcare.
    I would never "flame" anyone I promise...thgis is a topic that comes up just about like clock work every 3-4 days it seems...these threads are never helpful, always negative and really makes me hate some folks for a few minutes while I read through them...heirarchy is everywhere, that is a fact...but when in these discussions it gets ugly at times, comments that are spit out are very troublesome....and these all come from us nurses, us "critical thinkers"....I am sure you will have success on whatever road you take in nursing....I guess I am just sick and tired of seeing these worn out and pointless comparisons...those who get the most passionate are probably the fragile, self loathing nurses I would never want to darken my door if I were ill....we are simply above this.....
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  6. Quote from jewelspassion
    Hey everyone, i am a second year nursing student (RN) and i notice a lot of controversy about LVNs saying they do exactly what a RN does. Can someone clarify the two??? i have an idea, but would like to know the major differences. Our LVNs come in our second semester after the first six weeks!! wow that's a huge diff in school. We almost have 2.5 semesters more of study than them. I absolutely have nothing against LVNs, but there are plenty out there that continuously say this. I have worked with amazing LVNs and yes they are huge huge huge assets for a RN and not to mention a patient. I just would really like to know the huge differences....is it really that simple "oh they can't push blood, push any IV meds, or do care plans" (which is huge, well at least in nursing school lol). Thanks for you input :spin:
    I think that the title you chose for this thread is insulting. It sounds as if you are fishing for people to stroke your ego and agree with you that LPNs are "beneath" you in the hierarchy. If you really cared to learn what the differences are between LPNs and RNs, a simple search would have provided
    you many articles on the subject.
  7. Are you saying that the LPNs come into your program after you have already completed two semesters and you wonder how that is possible?

    If they come in as an LVN/LPN already, it's because they have already taken between 8-18 months of nursing school and have sat for the NCLEX-PN and thus they only need the last year or semester or two of the RN program to become RNs. If you are saying that they come in for your last year and go out with an LPN... then that is just crazy! and you are probably confused.

    Of course if this is not what you are saying then I apologize in advance. But as an LPN who joined an RN course in their second year I can only speak from my experience... that I had already completed a year of nursing school, experienced the h-e- double hockey sticks that is NCLEX, worked for two years and came in on what is called Advanced Placement so at the end of these two semesters I will be able to get the same RN degree.
  8. Wild Irish, I was just about to go on your thread and start up a chant of "LPNs forever, RNs never!" sadly it got padlocked before I had the chance.



    (and I really hope people have enough of a sense of humor to realize when someone's being facetious. I think it's dumb for a LPN to say they're "equal" to a RN. The law begs to differ. And it's equally dumb for a RN to play down the status of LPN)
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  9. Quote from BrandonLPN
    Wild Irish, I was just about to go on your thread and start up a chant of "LPNs forever, RNs never!" sadly it got padlocked before I had the chance.



    (and I really hope people have enough of a sense of humor to realize when someone's being facetious. I think it's dumb for a LPN to say they're "equal" to a RN. The law begs to differ. And it's equally dumb for a RN to play down the status of LPN)
    lol...seriously I am offended that it was closed....one can come on and stir up craziness, day after day and for what?....to stroke a fragile ego?....OMG!....whatever, I will just turn my attention to the, "I just passed my NCLEX!" threads....that is seems to be a real positive thing here, because a truthful "negative" statement get's you locked down....Critical Thinking at it's best....
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