BSN's vs. Community college - page 6

Hi all. I just wanted to say that nurses with BSN's in my opinion should be paid more, and have preference in the hiring process. In community college they basically pay you to go, and at a... Read More

  1. by   ACESfan87
    Hmm I think that this is cool.
  2. by   Epona
    Everyone has made some great points on the discussion here. I do not think a diploma nurse is any better or any worse then a BSN nurse.

    My belief is that BSN nurses have more opportunities and the potential to make more money. I think diploma nurses probably have more hands-on experience which is a HUGE help. But I don't think getting the BSN is a waste and it can propell you into other avenues faster.

    Both are good. It's a personal and financial decision. Good luck to all of us!

    E

    :Santa3:
  3. by   sunnyjohn
    "Lazarus, COME FORTH!"
  4. by   emmycRN
    Quote from jakethai
    This is very concerning. We nurses NEED TO stick together. BSN, ADN, Diploma, LVN. Nurses are nurses period. And to the original post.....shame on you.
    Jake Sareerak IP

    A nurse is a nurse period? Don't think so. I agree we should stick together but come on, education does count for something. The difference between an LVN and a BSN prepared nuse is like night and day. I don't intend to step on anyones toes around here but if we want to raise the professional level of nursing we have to also raise the educational expectations of our members. To say someone with 1-2 years of education is on the same level as someone with 4-6 undermines the complexity of the knowledge base inherent to nursing.
  5. by   kaliaj05
    I am a nursing student and I really don't care what I make as long as I can pay off my student loans and support my kids before school I was a cashier at a gas station making $8.00 an hour. I am new here and think that everyone who wants to become a nurse and devote their lives to helping people deserves an equal amount of credit regardless of education. (By the way I am working on my BSN and by the time I am done will have amounted about $30,000 in student loans) I think that pay should come with experience, as well as things like evaluations (meaning what do patients think of your bedside manner, etc. because I have known some not so nice nurses in my time who seem like they are only in it for the paycheck, not that all of them are by any means) regardless of the letters behind your name. Being a nurse is not about status how many nurses do you know that have a household name? Not many. I can name more celebrities than I can nurses...haha. Maybe for nurses that want more advanced degrees though and more recognition, the upper level positions should be judged on experience as well as education. That's just my opinion.
  6. by   emmycRN
    nevemind
    Last edit by emmycRN on Dec 13, '06
  7. by   emmycRN
    biting my tongue
  8. by   suzy253
    Quote from emmycRN
    biting my tongue
    bite away
  9. by   CarVsTree
    Hello all!

    This thread is almost 3 years old.

    Please everyone, let the dead horse lie.

    :deadhorse
  10. by   sunnyjohn
    I say we declare this horse a DNR.
  11. by   nurse4theplanet
    seems the OP was a troll anyway

    just popped in to get others going

    Look how great it worked, shame.
  12. by   nurseKim28590
    my personal experience is that the ADN nurse is much more clinically prepared than the BSN nurse. The BSN nurse spends time in classes that really aren't necessary and less time in the clinical areas. I think it's great to further your education, however. I think we should focus on the ability to care for our patients rather than the degree in which we have. There are nurses ADN as well as BSN, MSN that are extremely incompetent. The person who said we all take the same NCLEX exam said it beautifully...I'd rather have a clinically prepared ADN nurse on my unit anyday....and I'm a BSN who began as an ADN..and, by the way, there are tons of ADN nurses in managerial positions...and they are there because they are excellent clinical nurses who know how to take care of the patients in their units if they have to....
  13. by   Tweety
    Quote from nurseKim28590
    my personal experience is that the ADN nurse is much more clinically prepared than the BSN nurse. The BSN nurse spends time in classes that really aren't necessary and less time in the clinical areas. I think it's great to further your education, however. I think we should focus on the ability to care for our patients rather than the degree in which we have. There are nurses ADN as well as BSN, MSN that are extremely incompetent. The person who said we all take the same NCLEX exam said it beautifully...I'd rather have a clinically prepared ADN nurse on my unit anyday....and I'm a BSN who began as an ADN..and, by the way, there are tons of ADN nurses in managerial positions...and they are there because they are excellent clinical nurses who know how to take care of the patients in their units if they have to....
    That really isn't the experience here.

    The difference between the ADN's and BSNs are more than just a few unnecessary courses. BSNs take more detailed assessment classes, patho-pharm, community health, research, etc. They also receive the exact same amount of clinical time that the ADNs do.

    They both come to the beside after graduation equally prepared to practice at a beginning level and I wouldn't care which one was my unit. I have precepted both.

    It also depends on the hospital and the area whether or not ADNs advance into management positions. I'm locked out of many positions in my hospital because I don't have a BSN. However, there are students in my RN to BSN class that have high managment and director level positions. The ADN didn't hinder them at all.

    Just wanted to post another perspective from your experience.

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