Is there really a "nursing shortage" - page 2

I was just wondering if all this talk about a nursing shortage is true, because I've also been reading on here how difficult the job market is. Does it depend on the area perhaps? I live in Oklahoma... Read More

  1. Visit  pmabraham profile page
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    Good day:

    Nursing Shortage a "Myth", New Survey Suggests just came out yesterday.

    I've read similar articles for the past few weeks.

    Personally, I'm not letting such news discourage me (I recently applied to nursing school for their RN program) as this can change over time; and as I'm sure will vary from region of the country to region of the country.

    Thank you.
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  2. Visit  nursel56 profile page
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    There is absolutely no nursing shortage in California. In fact, upon reading this board we may be one of the most impacted by this, as we also seem to be the first choice of foreign-trained nurses. There's a long "support for unemployed new grads in California" thread here.

    I was going to link to the survey pmabraham did (thanks!)

    Recently, allnurses teamed with CNN and money reporter Annalyn Kurtz, which is very well done. It's always best to do lots of research into this with as many sources as you can, as statements and predictions in nursing these days are all over the map.

    CNN article on nurses and job growth
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  3. Visit  malamud69 profile page
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    Been talking to a bunch of old time/long time nurses I know...they see it like this...all things move in cycles...some years its up some years its down...And they have been seeing the same thing for 40 years!Its what you make of it. There will always be nay sayers. People are essentially scared/superstitious/misinformed- what have you... and the media does not help...so stay true to your path and you will find your niche.
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  4. Visit  ♪♫ in my ♥ profile page
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    Quote from soxgirl2008
    I think it does depend on the area. I know people who couldn't find a job in large metro areas but had no problem landing a job at more rural hospitals.
    This has been my personal experience and that of several people that I know.
  5. Visit  ♪♫ in my ♥ profile page
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    Quote from Topher53
    I heard the shortage is mainly on the west coast.
    I couldn't speak for our neighbors to the North but there is NO SHORTAGE at all in California. I think it's mostly due to (1) generally excellent compensation, (2) fabulous weather, and (3) legally mandated RATIOS.
  6. Visit  MJeanRN profile page
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    Sure there is...if by "nursing shortage", you mean that the hospitals are requiring nurses to take on more and more patients and increase work loads without staffing much needed additional help. It's not because there aren't enough nurses to fill the positions, it's because hiring more nurses affects the bottom line. The nursing shortage exists in hospitals looking to save money. Hospitals are consistently short staffed, which has translated to the media that more nurses are needed. While this is true in some areas, it is self-imposed by many hospitals who are not willing to hire additional staff.
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  7. Visit  laylasmom profile page
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    Wow thanks so much for all this great info! It really give me a much better perspective!
  8. Visit  UVA Grad Nursing profile page
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    For the past 12+ years, I have been an exhibitor at several national nursing conferences (for OR, critical care, neuro, OB, Black Nurses, Hispanic Nurses, etc.) as well as the national student nurse conference (NSNA). There are still healthcare systems actively recruiting nurses in specific areas (OR nurses with 5+ years experience, experiences neuro ICU nurses, Neonatal NPs, etc). But very few facilities need to travel to recruit new grads. Last year there were under 12 employers that attended the National Student Nurse Association convention in Pittsburgh -- they were vastly outnumbered by the 50+ schools of nursing there. In 2007 at this same conference there were over 150 hospitals actively seeking new grads.

    Colleagues in nurse recruitment indicate that they do not need to look for new grads at all. One hospital in DC received over 1300 applications for 40 positions for new grads in 2012; they did not even call any ADN graduates as they had 400+ BSN grads submit applications. Other major academic medical centers which used to travel to recruit reduced the window when they accepted new grad applications (8 hours at one 1000-bed hospital, 2 days for another 900-bed facility).

    So yes there is a shortage for RNs with many years of very specialized experience. But it is a very tough market for those with no experience (especially for those from community college and the multitude of for-profit associate degree programs). At a recent meeting of community college nursing faculty in my state, there was a report that up to 35% of ADN grads did not have nursing jobs 12 months after graduation.

    Good luck.
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  9. Visit  Nurse_ profile page
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    There is a nursing shortage of Experienced nurses.
  10. Visit  nursel56 profile page
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    Thanks for that, UVA Grad Nursing. That kind of "boots-on-the-ground" information is vital for all of us in making our career plans.
  11. Visit  RNsRWe profile page
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    Quote from Nurse_
    There is a nursing shortage of Experienced nurses.
    And depending on where you are, even experienced nurses don't have an easy time finding employment. People with GOBS of experience have found themselves submitting alot of applications and getting few bites.

    Only those with the RIGHT experience at the RIGHT time in the RIGHT place will be finding work without too much trouble.
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  12. Visit  HouTx profile page
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    Please don't put much faith in the Department of Labor information - this is based on very simplistic projections that anticipate the "need" for nurses based on population growth.

    DOL numbers do not reflect the real world. In fact, hospitals are the largest employer group, and hospital nursing jobs have steadily decreased over the last 5 years and will continue to decrease. This is a result of enormous pressures to cut costs in order to offset the impact of dramatic declines in reimbursement. CA is the only state with mandated nurse-patient ratios. The American Hospital Association is an enormously powerful political lobby - nuff said.
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  13. Visit  windsurfer8 profile page
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    Are you free to move? To say every single hospital is experiencing the same shortage is just not how it works. You have to talk with places where you want to apply and find out how they handle hiring new grads. Also if you are able to move you open yourself up to a ton more options. Like me I graduated with my BSN in 2008 and moved to Wyoming and worked for 3 years and now I moved somewhere else and I got a job quick. The more flexible you are the more likely you are to get a job. Some people only want to work at X hospital on X unit and only X hours. Good luck with that. You need to be able to do med/surg nights. Then you earn your stripes and time and can move onto something else.
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