Easiest/quickest online MSN-DNP program

  1. I am finishing up my FNP program and
    would like to take the last step and get my
    DNP. I am doing this just for my own pride as there really isn't a lot more for a clinical NP in my role to gain from it (scope, title, salary). I am finishing my 5th college degree so needless to say I am burnt out on school for a lifetime. Therefore, I am really looking for the DNP program with the minimum program requirements. Accreditation isn't really a concern since there is essentially nothing attached to this degree i.e. lisensure.

    Please dont reply with the "why are you shortchanging your patients by going to a less than reputable school" comments. I am just looking any helpful suggestions

    Thanks!
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  3. by   Jules A
    Lol, yeah you aren't going to short change patients imo because much to my dismay the DNP really doesn't offer anything in that regard as it stands now. Interesting that you don't care about accreditation but you make a decent point about it not mattering. I'm kicking it around myself so I have finally earned the official right to say "suck it" when I'm talking about the silly nursing courses required and throw the title Dr. A around on a very limited prn basis.
  4. by   ClayH
    Haha about throwing the Dr title around on a limited prn basis have you done any research? With the little that I have done at state schools in my area (AZ) it seems like it is literally just a continuation of the BSN and beginning MSN courses where you just write a paper and then write another paper and move on to the next course.
    And I would really love not doing more clinical hours for the DNP.
  5. by   Jules A
    Quote from ClayH
    Haha about throwing the Dr title around on a limited prn basis have you done any research? With the little that I have done at state schools in my area (AZ) it seems like it is literally just a continuation of the BSN and beginning MSN courses where you just write a paper and then write another paper and move on to the next course.
    And I would really love not doing more clinical hours for the DNP.
    I have done research under the direction of my department and I did not enjoy it. I picture DNP as basically writing papers about how superior I will be when I'm a "Dr". I can not justify the financial outlay because there is nothing in return at this point in my career other than the aforementioned ego factor and that isn't worth me parting with my hard earned dollars.
  6. by   Mavrick
    Sure does cheapen the concept of that Dr. Nurse.

    I'll just keep on laughing at them.
  7. by   NurseLatteDNP
    University of Central Arkansas. I have researched several degrees based on the entrance requirements, cost per hour and total credit hours. I am almost done and it has been very doable with a FT job and a family.
  8. by   HikingNinja
    I'm finishing up my PMHNP. Then I'm going to complete a DNP. I just want that terminal degree. Also, I'm a perpetual college student. It's like my hobby. I need to learn to take up fishing. So, from my research, I've decided on the DNP from Touro in Nevada.

    DNP FAQs

    216-217 New Student Tuition & Fees

    It's 33 credits and is formatted to be completed in 1 year via distance format. It does involve practicum hours. You need to work with a DNP on a scholarly practice project that impacts patient care (for example, improving RN confidence in establishing rapport with inpatient psychiatric patients by providing a 2 hour hours on motivational interviewing). You get my drift. The DNP you work with does not need to be in geographic region. All practicum hours can be done remotely also. I actually live in Nevada and went to an open house for this program. It seemed very organized. I met a recent graduate who stated she was working 40 - 50 hours per week as an NP and was able to complete the program in a year. And it also under 20k. Rolling admissions about 4 times a year.
  9. by   ClayH
    Ivana,
    Thanks for the info! I went to the school's site but it wasn't formatting too well. From what I could tell it is 2 year program 6 credits a semester? What are classes like? Discussion questions and essays?
    Thanks again!
  10. by   sheasawyer
    DNP will eventually be the only way to become an NP.
    CNS will require DNP soon as will Nurse Anesthetist will require their doctorate.
    Is DNP necessary right now? Not completely. Will it be necessary in the future? Absolutely.
    DNP and NP is sought to be a parity degree with their counterpart the MD/DO.
    We need to elevate our profession and career.
    Public relations, the way the public view the NP as a doctor or a nurse.
    Rather it’s both, but in reality these sorts of things matter to the patient.
    They also matter to the public, and the publics view.
    NP wants to be equal to MD, or have full autonomy, right?
    But an NP with a MSN can never be equal to an MD with their doctorate, not in the public eye.
    White coat effect, placebo, initially impressions, and educational back ground also play a part in patient compliance, success of treatment, and satisfaction.
    While it may not matter to an individual NP, or they may not see the point to the DNP, the profession is attempting to elevate itself to a new level.
    It’s a money grab, it’s needed, it’s not needed, it’s a few extra papers, it’s trivial, it’s the future, its all of the above.
    Its not so much what it is now, its what it is later for the profession as a whole.
    Last edit by sheasawyer on Aug 1 : Reason: grammar error
  11. by   lwsoccjs
    Agreed, if only the Doctorate Degree did anything for my clinical judgement. The one thing the public will need to deal with on an everyday basis with me as their provider. Sigh.
  12. by   ClayH
    Quote from sheasawyer
    DNP will eventually be the only way to become an NP.
    CNS will require DNP soon as will Nurse Anesthetist will require their doctorate.
    Is DNP necessary right now? Not completely. Will it be necessary in the future? Absolutely.
    DNP and NP is sought to be a parity degree with their counterpart the MD/DO.
    We need to elevate our profession and career.
    Public relations, the way the public view the NP as a doctor or a nurse.
    Rather it’s both, but in reality these sorts of things matter to the patient.
    They also matter to the public, and the publics view.
    NP wants to be equal to MD, or have full autonomy, right?
    But an NP with a MSN can never be equal to an MD with their doctorate, not in the public eye.
    White coat effect, placebo, initially impressions, and educational back ground also play a part in patient compliance, success of treatment, and satisfaction.
    While it may not matter to an individual NP, or they may not see the point to the DNP, the profession is attempting to elevate itself to a new level.
    It’s a money grab, it’s needed, it’s not needed, it’s a few extra papers, it’s trivial, it’s the future, its all of the above.
    Its not so much what it is now, its what it is later for the profession as a whole.
    I felt like I was reading a poem here haha
    Well said about the reasoning behind. I want to be ahead of the curve as well as not be 10 years out of school when I'm told I have 3 years to complete the DNP per legislation ect.
  13. by   lwsoccjs
    You'll be grandfathered in. No different than pharmacy when they made the transition. No different than physical therapy or pick any medical profession. The way they stop the masters from practicing is not allowing them to sit the the certification test. Come on now. How long have we been pushing for BSN level to be mandatory. Many say the BSN adds little value to ADN for clinical work. Well I would say the exact same thing for DNP. It's been over 40 years for the BSN argument. Good luck with your added 30 credits for the doctorate not one that will increase diagnosis, assessment, pharmacology, diagnostics, or the like.
  14. by   ClayH
    Quote from lwsoccjs
    You'll be grandfathered in. No different than pharmacy when they made the transition. No different than physical therapy or pick any medical profession. The way they stop the masters from practicing is not allowing them to sit the the certification test. Come on now. How long have we been pushing for BSN level to be mandatory. Many say the BSN adds little value to ADN for clinical work. Well I would say the exact same thing for DNP. It's been over 40 years for the BSN argument. Good luck with your added 30 credits for the doctorate not one that will increase diagnosis, assessment, pharmacology, diagnostics, or the like.
    Hey my RN to BSN was the most influential and meaningful educational and professional journey I have experienced....... said no one ever.
    To me the DNP is too easy to not get, much like the BSN

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