Washington Redskins Cheerleader Suffers Dystonia From Flu Shot - Page 3

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  1. Oct 17, '09 by
    vitamin d for swine flu prevention

    study shows vitamin d may have a role to play in preventing colds and flu - webmd
    vitamins are option for parents who don't want h1n1 flu shot video
    vitamin d may protect against common cold - cnn.com

    http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&so...-8&sa=n&tab=wn

    low vitamin d linked to severe asthma webmd
    high doses of vitamin d cut ms relapses webmd
    kids may need 10 times more vitamin d webmd
    7 in 10 u.s. kids have low vitamin d webmd
    nkf 2009: vitamin d supplementation benefits dialysis patients medscape
    benefit of vitamin d in diabetes and other chronic diseases medicalnewstoday
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  2. Oct 17, '09 by
    Just one more follow up... This is a catch all follow up on a couple of different things. First, the VAERS report-there are 63 cases of dystonia reported from vaccinations, 30 of which are documented from the vaccinations my daughter received at her 6 month check up. This is broad spectrum and covers not only flu but also childhood immunizations. The previous poster jumped on the flu shot and missed my point about the safety of the additives that the drug companies are using. It wasn't about the flu shot for me because that's not what my daughter got when she was 6 months old.

    Second, to the poster that wanted references about physicians using vits d and c to treat their patients. I had initially listed a bunch of article references but here's a personal anecdote(uh-oh, is that allowed here? A friend of my husband who lives in TX got the swine flu and he and his family were treated with high doses of vitamin D and vitamin C. He reported that they were all significantly better within 1-2 days of starting the treatment.

    My husband and I started taking supplements of Vit D over 2 1/2 months ago-he's taking 5,000 iu/day and I'm taking 4,000 iu/day(I was being just a bit more precautionary than him) and we just got our blood work back. My level is only at 42 and his is at 47 which is within the normal range but optimal level is considered 50-80 according to vitd council.org(there is debate about what is optimal so don't write me about that ok?)
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    Oct 17, '09 by
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  4. Oct 17, '09 by
    Quote from musiklover
    Just one more follow up... This is a catch all follow up on a couple of different things. First, the VAERS report-there are 63 cases of dystonia reported from vaccinations, 30 of which are documented from the vaccinations my daughter received at her 6 month check up. This is broad spectrum and covers not only flu but also childhood immunizations. The previous poster jumped on the flu shot and missed my point about the safety of the additives that the drug companies are using. It wasn't about the flu shot for me because that's not what my daughter got when she was 6 months old.

    Second, to the poster that wanted references about physicians using vits d and c to treat their patients. I had initially listed a bunch of article references but here's a personal anecdote(uh-oh, is that allowed here? A friend of my husband who lives in TX got the swine flu and he and his family were treated with high doses of vitamin D and vitamin C. He reported that they were all significantly better within 1-2 days of starting the treatment.

    My husband and I started taking supplements of Vit D over 2 1/2 months ago-he's taking 5,000 iu/day and I'm taking 4,000 iu/day(I was being just a bit more precautionary than him) and we just got our blood work back. My level is only at 42 and his is at 47 which is within the normal range but optimal level is considered 50-80 according to vitd council.org(there is debate about what is optimal so don't write me about that ok?)
    Anecdotes are always fun to hear and why wouldn't they be "allowed?" They're not evidence of course, but they're fun.

    I'd love some link to studies if you have them.
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  5. Oct 17, '09 by
    Quote from Student4_life
    and even if it was the vaccine that caused the dystonia, isn't the side effect on one person kind of small compared to the population that doesn't die because of the flu?
    ...unless you or a loved one are that one with a serious reaction..
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  6. Oct 17, '09 by
    Of course that doesn't diminish the feelings of grief if a loved one is injured because of a vaccine.

    But I think that Student_4_life was saying that without vaccines far more would have suffered.....for all we know, far more in that family would have suffered.

    That's why research is so much more important than anecdotal evidence. We know that folks die from various diseases......if we can decrease that number tremendously, that's a good thing. So (for simplicities sake I'm inventing numbers)...if out of a hundred folks, 60 would have likely gotten sick and 20 sick enough to risk their life.....but with a vaccine, 1 has a serious reaction....and 20 get sick and 3 are very sick. Of course we grieve for the person with the serious reaction......but we grieve once instead of 20 times.

    Now, (even with my made up numbers) my one in a hundred for dystonia is incredibly high....as was reported earlier in this thread there have been 63 people out of all the vaccines they've ever tracked who have developped dystonia after a vaccination.

    Is it a horrible thing, of course, should we be working to figure out what happened so that we can eliminate it as a vaccine reaction at all? Of course.....but it still makes sense to vaccinate folks.
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  7. Oct 17, '09 by
    link to studies on vit d and the flu

    http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/scien...nfluenza.shtml

    • epidemic influenza and vitamin d
    • on the epidemiology of influenza
    • use of vit d in clinical practice
    • association between serum 25-hydroxyvitamin d level and upper respiratory tract infection in the third national health and nutrition examination survey

    there are many more cited when you click on the link. i just listed a few and some of them are also mentioned in my previous post with links. you asked for links to studies......these are all compiled on this website but you can find some of them on pubmed and jama/archives of internal medicine because i found them there as well. i'm sure others can be found if you look for them because they are cited in the articles that i have posted.

    all of this is just food for thought. whether or not you get the flu shot i'm sure many of us are vit d deficient so it wouldn't hurt to look at the information that is presented in these studies and articles.

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  8. Oct 18, '09 by
    I see possible links and benefits to using vit D, however, remember how many such possible links there were to using vit E and beta carotene? Then it turned out that high doses of these vitamins/supplements increased risk of death.

    Vaccination is proven to save lives.

    High doses of supplements are not proven.
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  9. Oct 18, '09 by
    By way of follow up on my husband's friend/family in TX who were all treated for swine flu with high doses of Vitamin D and C by their family physician. Here were the dosages of the vitamins- Vitamin D 100iu/lb/day and Vitamin C 3000mg q4hrs during the duration of their symptoms.

    Again, I feel I have to reiterate(picture of me beating my head against a brick wall)that I am not telling anyone to drink the kool aid and jump on the Vitamin D band wagon or to not get vaccinated. Getting vaccinated is your own personal decision to make-not mine, your employer and certainly not the government. I'm not telling you to OD on Vitamin D supplements(head against the wall!). We're all adults with rational thought processes. Not only that, we're professionals with RN behind our name in most cases so I think that makes us qualified to read some legitimate scientific studies and articles written by qualified physicians and researchers(not people that stayed at a Holiday Inn) and make an informed choice.

    Do you think that if 75% of Americans are vit d deficient that maybe, just maybe some of us might fall into that category?
    ScienceDaily (Apr. 14, 2009) — According to a recent study in the Archives of Internal Medicine, 75 percent of Americans do not get enough Vitamin D
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0408140208.htm I am just putting the exciting new research and findings out there for all those that want to be informed and to point out that there are many of us that are probably deficient ourselves when you look at the numbers.
  10. Oct 22, '09 by
    Please look at this video on side effects from the swine flu vaccine of 1976 -

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cxz5dqGfsw&NR=1