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So far, what I am reading, it's the young and the old and people with other major health problems that are actually dying from this disease.

Any flu can get out of control, but they are making it sound like the Black Death.

My concern was peaked when a 6-year old girl in the UK supposedly was 100% healthy that died of the Swine flu...however, an autopsy revealed she also had a severe staph infection...so severe that they could not make the final determination of what killed her..the Swine flu, or the staph infection.

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So far, what I am reading, it's the young and the old and people with other major health problems that are actually dying from this disease.

Any flu can get out of control, but they are making it sound like the Black Death.

My concern was peaked when a 6-year old girl in the UK supposedly was 100% healthy that died of the Swine flu...however, an autopsy revealed she also had a severe staph infection...so severe that they could not make the final determination of what killed her..the Swine flu, or the staph infection.

The very young and the old are the usual victims of seasonal flu which is very different from what is happening now. Pandemic viruses primarily target young adults and school age kids and pregnant women as well. Pregnant women are especially vulnerable. Very few elderly people are getting sick.

https://allnurses.com/pandemic-flu-forum/evidence-swine-flu-399332.html

Seasonal flu occurs in the regular flu season. Pandemics can occur at any time of the year, like now when so many are getting sick, and it's summer here in the northern hemisphere. Seasonal flu lasts a few months. Pandemics last for a long, long time. We will be dealing with this one for over a year with successive waves of infection possibly up to two years.

While it is true that most of the severe cases are in people with other health problems or in pregnant women, there is a percentage of fatalities occurring in otherwise healthy people. This is what happens with pandemic viruses that usually does not happen with seasonal flu. These cases appear to be random, but they are definitely occurring. As more and more people catch the virus, we will see more and more of these deaths as well.

http://www.sacbee.com/ourregion/story/2071046.html

https://allnurses.com/pandemic-flu-forum/no-prior-existing-400466.html

The biggest challenge with a pandemic is that many people across the globe are getting sick at once. Disruptions of many kinds of services will occur when so many ill simultaneously. The health care systems in particular will be tremendously stressed.

Getting any kind of flu is not like a bad cold. It is incapaciting for most, and they are not capable of working even they wanted to. They are very sick.

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Specializes in NICU, Post-partum.
The very young and the old are the usual victims of seasonal flu which is very different from what is happening now. Pandemic viruses primarily target young adults and school age kids and pregnant women as well. Pregnant women are especially vulnerable. Very few elderly people are getting sick.

https://allnurses.com/pandemic-flu-forum/evidence-swine-flu-399332.html

Seasonal flu occurs in the regular flu season. Pandemics can occur at any time of the year, like now when so many are getting sick, and it's summer here in the northern hemisphere. Seasonal flu lasts a few months. Pandemics last for a long, long time. We will be dealing with this one for over a year with successive waves of infection possibly up to two years.

While it is true that most of the severe cases are in people with other health problems or in pregnant women, there is a percentage of fatalities occurring in otherwise healthy people. This is what happens with pandemic viruses that usually does not happen with seasonal flu. These cases appear to be random, but they are definitely occurring. As more and more people catch the virus, we will see more and more of these deaths as well.

http://www.sacbee.com/ourregion/story/2071046.html

https://allnurses.com/pandemic-flu-forum/no-prior-existing-400466.html

The biggest challenge with a pandemic is that many people across the globe are getting sick at once. Disruptions of many kinds of services will occur when so many ill simultaneously. The health care systems in particular will be tremendously stressed.

Getting any kind of flu is not like a bad cold. It is incapaciting for most, and they are not capable of working even they wanted to. They are very sick.

I wasn't talking about those that are simply contracting it, I am talking about those that are actually dying from it.

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I wasn't talking about those that are simply contracting it, I am talking about those that are actually dying from it.

Actually, my post was about both.

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Actually, my post was about both.
There is the fact that 6% of those that died so far were young, healthy and pregnant. I am really hoping that now that every one has a heads up on this they will move quickly to treat pregnant women and we can make a reduction in that particular death rate.
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Anyone else get the priority list for the vaccine from the CDC?

Pregnant women

People who live with or care for children younger than 6 months of age

Health care and emergency services personnel

Persons between the ages of 6 months through 24 years of age

People from ages 25 through 64 years who are at higher risk for novel H1N1 because of chronic health disorders or compromised immune systems

The groups listed above total approximately 159 million people in the United States.

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Anyone else get the priority list for the vaccine from the CDC?

Pregnant women

People who live with or care for children younger than 6 months of age

Health care and emergency services personnel

Persons between the ages of 6 months through 24 years of age

People from ages 25 through 64 years who are at higher risk for novel H1N1 because of chronic health disorders or compromised immune systems

The groups listed above total approximately 159 million people in the United States.

I hadn't seen that list, no. For healthcare and EMS personnel, do they mean "that are working when we start giving the vaccine out" or do they mean "that are able and available to work, or that can and will go work in a state of emergency"? Because I'm starting on my RN pre-requisities when the Fall semester starts. But I am a certified PCA. I'm trying to work PT while in school, but so far the only offerings are FT overnight or PRN, which I can't do. But, let's say that the vaccine is handed out at the end of October, and I'm in school until the beginning of December, then I get a job... am I not going to have the vaccine? I'm not sure that makes any sense. But I don't know how they're doing the vaccine program. Maybe it's done by if your registration is current, you get the jab? But then retired nurses wouldn't be able to come in if an emergency was called...

Also, if all those groups above are 159 million, and there are 160 million doses... something's wrong, because to vaccinate everyone, we'd need twice that many doses.

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Also, if all those groups above are 159 million, and there are 160 million doses... something's wrong, because to vaccinate everyone, we'd need twice that many doses.

You had to point that out, didn't you?

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I hadn't seen that list, no. For healthcare and EMS personnel, do they mean "that are working when we start giving the vaccine out" or do they mean "that are able and available to work, or that can and will go work in a state of emergency"? Because I'm starting on my RN pre-requisities when the Fall semester starts. But I am a certified PCA. I'm trying to work PT while in school, but so far the only offerings are FT overnight or PRN, which I can't do. But, let's say that the vaccine is handed out at the end of October, and I'm in school until the beginning of December, then I get a job... am I not going to have the vaccine? I'm not sure that makes any sense. But I don't know how they're doing the vaccine program. Maybe it's done by if your registration is current, you get the jab? But then retired nurses wouldn't be able to come in if an emergency was called...

Also, if all those groups above are 159 million, and there are 160 million doses... something's wrong, because to vaccinate everyone, we'd need twice that many doses.

The question about the timing of employment is a good one. I honestly don't know how they plan to do that.

As far as the math, I'm hoping that when they say doses, they actually mean the entire 2-injection regimen and each person will get both, or the entire regimen. Hey, it could happen.

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lol - yes I had to point that out, and I guess "it could happen". And by that I mean "in a parallel universe".

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"Any flu can get out of control, but they are making it sound like the Black Death."

We would do well to keep that little episode in mind...It does seem so far away and unlikely in our modern world, but we are always vulnerable. In fact, we may be even MORE likely to have problems because of our modern world. Quicker transportation (and spread), less concern because after all, we have medications these days, etc. We could very easily be caught by surprise by a quick, lethal bug...

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