Mandatory Flu Vaccines- How do you feel? - page 7

by Snowbird17

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Anyone else upset by the requirement to take flu vaccine or else... not even a mask option??? Only way out is a MD note stating "severe" allergy. Why is it we can't force our patients but our hospitals can force us. I am... Read More


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    Quote from ckh23
    Every flu season it's the same thread.


    Yes you do have the right to refuse the vaccine, just as your employer will have the right to terminate you or suspend you until after flu season.
    You took the words right out of my mouth/keyboards! Deja vu all over again!!
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    No one is being forced to get vaccinated. They are being forced to be vaccinated if they want to keep their place of employment. So, there IS a choice. I support the mandate. I have 2 patients right now with Guillain–Barré syndrome. One of them caused from the flu vaccine. I still think the benefits outweigh the risk. I feel like most people have their panties in a bunch not because they don't want the shot, but because they don't want to have their choice taken away. The thing for me is that patients don't have a choice when they themselves can't get the flu shot for medical reasons and are exposed to the flu because their caretakers didn't get the flu vaccine.

    "No day but today"
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    My husband says I turn into Nurse Ratchett each of the last three years since I can't have a flu shot, and MAKE
    him get one! I just tell him that he ain't seen nothin' yet!

    Seriously, besides me, some of his students are either pregnant or moms of infants, and he'd feel absolutely horrible if one of hem caught it from him.
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    The latest Cochrane Review found that influenza vaccination was completely ineffective at reducing transmission. I don't see why we are still discussing this.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0010949/
    Last edit by jt43 on Oct 7, '12 : Reason: add link
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    I still can't understand why anyone would want to risk getting that sick and exposing their loved ones and patients to the flu when one shot can prevent it and you can get the vaccine for free and usually without waiting. The public stands in line sometimes for hours waiting for the chance to receive what the hospital begs us to have and gives us for free at our convenience.[/QUOTE]

    Again the vaccine doesn't prevent the flu! It is a gamble whether the flu strains they place in the vaccine are even going to be effective at whatever flu strain does happen. They are guessing, this is not exact science! It is not like the measles vaccine where you know it will protect you from measles.

    The flu vaccine is a guess and for that guess you are risking your health! The people who have gotten sick after the vaccine are not lying and the ones who are paralyzed are not making it up! It scares me how many nurses here are like sheeps to the slaughter, believing everything they are told!

    What happened to critical thinking and evidenced based practice! Surely I can't believe I'm the only one to have met or cared for someone with guillian barre after a flu vaccine! There have even been deaths after vaccines to children and elderly but then they refuse to believe it came from the vaccine and it's not recorded! So take the vaccine at your own risk! Even OSHA knows the truth and has come out against mandating vaccines!

    Don't forget the girls who have died yes died after getting the gardisal vaccine! Where is this critical thinking nurses are supposed to have?

    If you want to learn more check out Mercola.com or Dr Blaylock who working in neurology has seen first hand the effects of the flu vaccine. If you still want to get your vaccine, go ahead but at least be informed of all the risks and know the benefit is still not proven, it is a guessing game!

    But big pharma gets to make a lot of money off the hospitals mandating flu vaccines on all of us! Follow the money, they conveniently have immunity from any liability if people are harmed by their vaccines. If you are one of the unfurtunate ones stand in line and ask the govt board for compensation! It seems to me if these vaccines are so safe the vaccine producers should be willing and able to stand behind their product. Guess what they aren't and they don't!

    Lastly I'm sick of all of you that say it's your choice if they mandate you quit or be fired. Where do you go when every place starts mandating it? No wonder nurses are so mistreated and there are so few unions in hospitals because nurses don't stand up for each other! This cold heartedness is pathetic!
    Last edit by brandy1017 on Oct 7, '12
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    Quote from YouwishiwasyourCNA
    No one is being forced to get vaccinated. They are being forced to be vaccinated if they want to keep their place of employment. So, there IS a choice. I support the mandate. I have 2 patients right now with Guillain–Barré syndrome. One of them caused from the flu vaccine. I still think the benefits outweigh the risk. I feel like most people have their panties in a bunch not because they don't want the shot, but because they don't want to have their choice taken away. The thing for me is that patients don't have a choice when they themselves can't get the flu shot for medical reasons and are exposed to the flu because their caretakers didn't get the flu vaccine.

    "No day but today"

    Wow! Just Wow! You even admit you've cared for some poor person who got guillian barre from the flu vaccine and you still have the NERVE to say go ahead and mandate it, to hell with whoever the poor suckers are who end up paralyzed or dead! That is just disgusting! What a patient advocate! WOW!
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    Quote from prmenrs
    You took the words right out of my mouth/keyboards! Deja vu all over again!!
    Then why waste your time reading any further or posting? Half the threads on the site are redundant to some extent. Required flu vaccines comes up each year because they are still an issue, therefore doesn't the topic have a place on this forum? Certainly, less informative are the infinite amount of threads seeking admission advice for school.
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    I love my job so if my employer told me it was mandatory to keep my position, I would gladly get the shot. That said, I have researched the flu vaccination and am comfortable with it. If they came up with some random series of vaccinations they said I "had" to get, we might have to talk. At that point I might start weighing my options a little more seriously.

    As a side note, I'm really glad my employer doesn't make vaccinations mandatory. I'm a pretty firm believer in personal choice.
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    Quote from brandy1017
    Again the vaccine doesn't prevent the flu! It is a gamble whether the flu strains they place in the vaccine are even going to be effective at whatever flu strain does happen. They are guessing, this is not exact science! It is not like the measles vaccine where you know it will protect you from measles. The flu vaccine is a guess and for that guess you are risking your health! The people who have gotten sick after the vaccine are not lying and the ones who are paralyzed are not making it up! It scares me how many nurses here are like sheeps to the slaughter, believing everything they are told!What happened to critical thinking and evidenced based practice! Surely I can't believe I'm the only one to have met or cared for someone with guillian barre after a flu vaccine! There have even been deaths after vaccines to children and elderly but then they refuse to believe it came from the vaccine and it's not recorded! So take the vaccine at your own risk! Even OSHA knows the truth and has come out against mandating vaccines! Don't forget the girls who have died yes died after getting the gardisal vaccine! Where is this critical thinking nurses are supposed to have?If you want to learn more check out Mercola.com or Dr Blaylock who working in neurology has seen first hand the effects of the flu vaccine. If you still want to get your vaccine, go ahead but at least be informed of all the risks and know the benefit is still not proven, it is a guessing game!But big pharma gets to make a lot of money off the hospitals mandating flu vaccines on all of us! Follow the money, they conveniently have immunity from any liability if people are harmed by their vaccines. If you are one of the unfurtunate ones stand in line and ask the govt board for compensation! It seems to me if these vaccines are so safe the vaccine producers should be willing and able to stand behind their product. Guess what they aren't and they don't!Lastly I'm sick of all of you that say it's your choice if they mandate you quit or be fired. Where do you go when every place starts mandating it? No wonder nurses are so mistreated and there are so few unions in hospitals because nurses don't stand up for each other! This cold heartedness is pathetic!
    Critically evaluating evidence, huh? How much do you know about the vaccine adverse effects reporting process? Do you understand that it means negative events are reported within a certain time frame of the event but that there's no burden to prove the vaccine caused the negative event? So you have to compare post vaccine events to the likelihood of those events happening in the general population itself. Reviews of events following gardasil uphold the vaccine as safe (this would be the evidenced based practice part, a review of literature taken from reputable sources) with the biggest concern for kids fainting following the vaccine.

    And as I mentioned earlier, you are more likely to get guillain barre from THE FLU ITSELF than from the vaccine. If you were seriously worried about GB you should be tripping over yourself to get a flu shot.
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    I don't mind the vaccinations if there's no ridiculous "get it or fired" policy. With normal workplace opt out policies, fine. My workplace has CRAZY policies that are built around just bullying people to get them. The mask. The trip to an allergist to prove that you're allergic to what you say you are. (Because eating eggs and my throat itching and swelling isn't proof. It's not proof until an allergist gives me a skin test. To which I say, "And how quick would you fire me if I gave a flu vax to a PATIENT that had that history and a bad outcome happened?")
    Last edit by wooh on Oct 8, '12
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