Nurses Helping Nurses
allnurses Network: Central | Jobs | Books | Newsletter
allnurses: A Nursing Community for Nurses
Home General News Blogs Articles Students Region Specialty Degrees F.A.Q.
Pain Management Nursing /

codeine to morphine: what's the enzyme?



Did You Know?
allnurses is the largest community for nurses on the web. We now have over 385,809 members! Join today to network with other nurses, laugh, share, and much more.
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Jan 29, 2005 11:17 AM

codeine to morphine: what's the enzyme?


I just read that approximately 1 in 14 Caucasians lacks the enzyme needed to convert codeine into morphine and therefore codeine does not do it for these folks. (Pharmacology for Nursing Care, 5th edition, by Lehne; page 76)

WOW - that seems like a high number of cases. Have you guys experienced patients with this problem? Do you buy the 1 in 14 number? And the book says that the patients LACK the enzyme, not that they are deficient in its quantity... so that sounds like the patient would get absolutely NO relief (no enzyme available to catalyze the reaction)...

WHAT is the enzyme ( arrrrrrrrrrrgh - book did not mention the enzyme name)

Thanks for all comments,
lifeLONGstudent


Share: Submit Thread to Facebook Submit Thread to Twitter Submit Thread to Technorati Submit Thread to Google Submit Thread to Reddit

Search Tags
None
Top

 
Advertisement
Sponsored Links
 
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Reply
10 Comments
No. 1
Old Jan 29, 2005, 11:46 AM
Updated Jan 29, 2005 at 11:53 AM by Marie_LPN, RN

Steven Yale, MD

Codeine is a drug that has been used for years to treat mild and moderate pain. One of the ways that it is metabolized results in the formation of morphine, which is believed to be the metabolite that makes codeine effective as a pain reliever.

The vast majority of clinically useful drugs are degraded by a small number of metabolic pathways, mainly microsomal P-450 enzymes located in the liver, and to a lesser extent, in the small intestine. A form of P-450 enzyme referred to as CYP2D6 metabolizes about 20% of the clinical drugs. Extensive studies on the CYP2D6 gene over the last decade have identified at least 53 alleles, and of these, more than 20 are known to significantly alter the metabolism of CYP2D6 substrates. CYP2D6 activity ranges from complete absence to ultra-rapid metabolism.

The ability of CYP2D6 to metabolize codeine to morphine is absent in 7% of the white population. This means that millions of patients get less pain relief from codeine because their particular variant of the CYP2D6 gene is unable to convert codeine into morphine.

In this study, it is planned to investigate a subpopulation of the Marshfield Clinic patients that have a medical history of relative codeine insensitivity to identify their genetic polymorphisms and to stratify this subpopulation into groups exhibiting pharmacokinetic differences in codeine metabolism.

http://research.marshfieldclinic.org...rc_codeine.asp
Top
 
No. 2
from prmenrs
Old Jan 29, 2005, 11:49 AM

There'll be a pop quiz on that material in the morning. Whew!!!
Top
 
No. 3
from z's playa
Old Jan 29, 2005, 12:16 PM

For years my mother and I have been saying to doctors that codeine does no better than tylenol for pain relief. Now I know why. Thanks!

Or at least it comes close enough to an explanation for me.
Top
 
No. 4
from jnette
Old Jan 29, 2005, 12:24 PM

Very interesting... thanx ! Learned something new again today.

So......... is there a way to find out if you are one of the 7% on whom codeine would have no affect? So one wouldn't be wasting their time, money, and doc's patience?
Top
 
No. 5
Old Jan 29, 2005, 12:26 PM

"thank you.... thank you very much"
You need to be in an Elvis mood when ya read this:Melody:
Top
 
No. 6
from beochicken
Old Jul 29, 2005, 04:10 AM

Do like me, get a tibia fracture and try convincing the ER staff (in the middle of the night) that the codeine/paracetamol combo tablets they gave me earlyer didnt work
Top
 
No. 7
from mattsmom81
Old Jul 29, 2005, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by beochicken
Do like me, get a tibia fracture and try convincing the ER staff (in the middle of the night) that the codeine/paracetamol combo tablets they gave me earlyer didnt work

Now we've got a snappy comeback to snooty staff who roll their eyes if codeine doesn't work for us. (and we will take our patients seriously when they tell US that )

Great information!!
Top
 
No. 8
from Gypsymoon
Old Jul 29, 2005, 08:19 PM

Does lacking this enzyme affect other drugs as well? My husband has always said that morphine does nothing for his pain but in 95% of his hospital admissions that require pain meds, they always insist on giving him morphine. Although the doctors don't say anything, we assume that they think that he is just drug seeking as they insist that morphine is the strongest pain med available. When the doctor asks if he is allergic to any meds, he will tell them that morphine doesn't work for him but they insist on giving it anyway. It wasn't until his brother was given morphine for a post-surgical procedure, and got no relief, that I began to think that it may be a genetically inherited trait.
Top
 
No. 9
Old Jul 30, 2005, 01:27 AM

Arrow Same problem with Percocet
I have the same problem with Percocet... but codeine works fine for me.

After my kidney transplant I was getting Percocet and practically crying from the pain. I asked if there was anything else ordered for pain, and the nurse said, "Just Tylenol with codeine." I begged her to bring me the Tylenol 3-- and within about a half hour I was able to tolerate the pain and finally get some sleep.

I guess if they know about the lacking enzyme for codeine, it must hold true for every other narcotic out there... I hope they develop a test so that people who have had surgery don't have to play a guessing game about which pain drug will or won't work for them.
Top
 
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Reply




Thread Tools


Who's Online
143 members
1,572 guests
1,715

8

Doctors-in-short-supply-responsibilities-for-nurses-may-expa...

7

Less regular sleep for ICU nurses may lead to errors

14

Nurse sends unused medical supplies to needy nations

23

Premature Births Are Fueling Higher Rates of Infant...

6

MRSA Strain Linked to High Death Rates

21

RI hospital fined $150,000 in 5th wrong-site surgery since...

63

Nursing: One of the 6 Thriving Jobs that are Here to Stay???

89

Dad Fights Hospital to Keep Baby on Life Support

12

A nurse can dream...about awesome nursing

16

California Nursing Situation - CINHC's plan to help New...



7

Why am I doing this, anyway?

0

Nurse Heal Thyself

7

My Papa, why I am the nurse I am today.

15

I made it through

11

An angel's gaze

13

A Sister Never Forgets

16

Ruby's Marbles

29

What Do Operating Room Nurses Do?

14

My Little Old Jedi

16

I love this job......

23

"I hear voices"

17

Preventing FRUTI (Foley Related Urinary Tract Infection) in...

23

Error and Attitude

10

It's Just a Shower

6

Searching for the Purpose





Sponsored Links

Currently Reading This Page: 1 (0 members & 1 guests)

Interested in the hottest topics of the week? Subscribe to the Nurse-zine Newsletter.
Enter email address: