I'm in my fourth term of pre-requisites for Nursing at PCC. So far I'm carrying a 4.0 GPA including an A in cell biology.
I'm in A&P and I'm having to face the possibility that I may get a "B" in it, although it's not sealed in stone, but I'm finding that even with 20 hours a week studying I'm getting B's on my quizzes. I thought I was really smart but it feels like swallowing a Grey's Anatomy and regurgitating it all back out the next week on a test with no promptings to help (we have a full test each week).
The nursing advisor hinted during the orientation that even people with 4.0 GPAs are being turned away which implies to me that if you have a 3.9 or 3.8 you should just forget about even trying to apply. Since they are turning away 4.0 students then I'm guessing that most, if not all people applying for admission to the nursing program are solid 4.0-ers, which I thought I could pull but I'm freaking out at the prospect of a "B" in A&P anywhere spelling
the end of the road right here and now after nearly a year of school so far.
It was my plan to apply to all the local OCNE schools. I've talked to several people that I know who are nurses (schooled outside of Oregon) and they all shrugged their shoulders and said, "Ya, I got a 4.0 in everything." Of course the schools won't talk about the specifics of what they do to land on the final decision so it keeps us a little bit in the dark (or gray), except for the application worksheet.
So what's everybody's opinion on this. Does GPA < 4.0 == "forget even getting in"?
Apr 25, '10
Well, the thing about OCNE schools is the price is so reasonable that they get tons and tons of candidates. They get to pick the cream of the crop. This means a lot of 4.0's but that's not the whole story. There are many other factors they look at: CNA certification/working, previous college degree - associates and up -volunteering experience, language abilities, etc etc. The key is to look at the scoring guide for each school that you are applying for and get as many of those points as possible (PCC offers points just for taking a certain number of credits at their school). GPA is only a fraction of the points that get you into nursing school - granted, it's a BIG fraction but you can still earn points in other ways.
I think a lot of people think GPA GPA GPA but forget that the schools are looking for POINTS POINTS POINTS - GPA is just PART of it.
I found that all the OCNE programs had a sample of their scoring guide online.
HOWEVER - Last year I applied only to Linfield and was denied. This year I applied to PCC and MHCC and so far have been denied from PCC and have not heard from MHCC. I applied AGAIN to Linfield with a 3.51 pre-req GPA this year and got accepted. Since last year I re-took a couple classes. I also received my CNA certification but never worked as a CNA but the experience of my training made for a great essay. ESSAYS ARE KEY!!! They make a competitive edge. A well written essay tells a lot about a person and their content tell a lot about the capability of a person. I spent probably 2 months on my essays and had them edited by two different people. Of course there's the whole - what school is better, what about the expenses vs the time saved/spent in school since the schools that require essays up front are more expensive....
Don't give up hope. Instead of bemoaning your possible "B" I would start figuring out what other things I could do to make you competitive.
(Besides, they'll probably end up curving your B into an A - are you in A&PIII? I got a B in that too but PCC gives you discretionary points for A's in A&PI and A&P2 only, your B will only influence the pre-req GPA)
Last edit by monkeyduty on Apr 25, '10
: Reason: clarification
Apr 25, '10
I think A&PI is the most difficult class of the pre-requisites. Mainly, because it's all new, it's accelerated, and on top of that you have the anxiety, perceived or real, of having to get an A.
We all know that once you are actually an RN it's not the grades that make you a good nurse.
You can probably still get into a nursing school with a B in A&PI. But, my advice is to get that A (because it sounds like you still can) and get rid of the doubt surrounding a B. You don't want to be looking back at that B and wondering if it's good enough for the next few terms before you apply.
Do whatever it takes, it's only 6 more weeks to the end of the term. You can do anything for 6 weeks. Consider using the tutoring center at the times when A&P instructors are there, schedule one-on-one's with your instructor, form study groups with people you know are doing well in the class, etc.
You can do it KMDGuy!
PS: If you end up with a B you can always retake the class for a higher grade. Perhaps with a better instructor
) BTW who is your instructor?
Last edit by Bent on Apr 25, '10