venting: fetal demise

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Warning: I'm venting about a fetal demise, my first, of a full-term, beautiful baby girl. Here goes the story...

Had a pt admitted to the hospital at 35+ weeks gestation for diabetic teaching and management of gestational diabetes, usual workup: NST, BPP c EFW... Neither she nor her husband speak English. G3P2. According to prenatal, had rec'd diabetic couseling as outpt since diagnosis with repeated notations of non-compliance with diet, refusal of insulin. I was her nurse that day. She showed up 6 hours late and, even though MD had told her to be prepared to spend at least 24 hours, up to 5 days as inpatient, had brought her two children and husband with her. She had never planned on staying even overnite, lied about her blood sugars, dietary intake... everything. She did have a reactive NST and 8/8 BPP. I heard the MD telling her that if she continued as she had been, the baby could very well die. She obviously didn't believe him. After the MD left, she was ready to walk out AMA. I, through a translator, asked her if she was prepared to trade her daughter's life for the inconvenience of staying for a few days in the hospital? She stayed overnite but walked out early the next a.m. before the MD returned.

Our hospital has started admitting scheduled C/S straight to pre-op holding (I won't even go into how we feel about that) and the OB nurse goes down, does FHTs by doppler just prior to delivery. She was sceduled for PC/S for breech presentation 37 wks gestation. So... down I go to pre-op with my trusty little doppler... can't find the tones... go get the MD... no tones... When was the last time she felt the baby move? "This morning." He asked her 4 times, in front of me, when she last felt the baby move... all 4 answers: "This morning." Stat US... dead baby. The decision is made to deliver by C/S. Out comes a beautiful, perfect baby girl, 9-10, no cord, no visible anomalies, not recently dead. The last NST c BPP had been a week before, reactive and 8/8. The MD had tears in his eyes and closeted himself in the dictation room for awhile by himself.

When she came up to the unit, I was passing in the hall. We made eye contact, briefly. I touched her arm, said "I'm sorry." She started sobbing. Daddy held his dead daughter briefly, Mom refused. I collected a lock of hair, took pictures and put together a bereavement package for the family. I don't know that I'll ever forget that baby's face.

I have mixed feelings toward the parents. They definitley were made aware of the risks of gestational diabetes and the possible outcomes. I'm angry that she could blithely lie, while looking so earnest, about her compliance with treatment. I'm sorry that they lost their daughter. I'm so very sorry that a baby girl died because Mom and Dad couldn't be convinced of their responsibility to their unborn child.

I think I'm done venting. Thanks for reading. Thoughts are welcome.

Specializes in PICU, surgical post-op.

[[[redhedgoddess]]] I hate this part of our jobs. Unfortunately, working in hospitals, we get to see amazing things, but we also get to see the times when miracles run short. I cry all the way home every single time I lose a patient, and I never want that to change. I'm glad this family had you to take care of their little one in whatever ways you could, and I'm sure they'll come to treasure the keepsakes you were able to put together for them.

As the old cliche goes "I know how you feel." What did you do to get over it, any insight might help.

Thanks

shearernurse

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

I think the key here is, you never get over it. To expect you will is setting yourself up for a high standard that is simply not possible to achieve for most of us.

What you do do, is, You "get on with it". You learn some things happen for no apparent reason, that are tragic. You cope in varying ways. You talk to friends/collegues. You pray, if inclined, for that family or for strength for yourself. You exercise. You meditate. You take a couple days to recoup and regroup. You love yourself extra tenderly while you are feeling acutely bad emotions about such situations.

Then as the saying goes, "you get back on the horse and ride again". That, after 10 years doing OB nursing, is what I do, to help get on with my career and life in such horrid situations.

Specializes in OB/Gyn, Post Partum, Antepartum.

Does anyone know of any articles that I can share with the staff on our antepartum unit about helping patients cope with fetal demise?

Specializes in Camp/LTC/School/Hospital.

Im on this site almost every day, just usually reading, only once and a while posting. But I feel so strongly about this post, I must reply. As a mother and a diabetic and a nurse. It is not our job to judge others behaviors, we are there to do our job as a nurse. I lost a son at 23 weeks in utero 16 years ago, ( I was not diabetic then) The autopsy came out with no abnomilies, I wanted a answer.. I could'nt find one, I did all the right things. I went on to have 2 healthy sons in the next couple years. With the support of the nurse who took care of me, she also lost a baby the year before, and support group for early infant loss. It is called "SHARE" it is national, and gives support to parents dealing with infant loss, could also be helpful to the caregivers as well.

I also like what some of the other posters said about cultural differences and language barriers, that may have played a part, in this as well.

Specializes in Camp/LTC/School/Hospital.

Here is that website for the "SHARE" support group. http://www.nationalshareoffice.com

my thoughts exactly. without some serious investigating, its WAY too easy to blame and point fingers. Im not saying that she had the right to be non-compliant with her diabetes and ect. in fact i have strong beliefs as to when life actually begins and that preg mom should be held responsible when found guilty of what i would call negligent infanticide.

Im really sorry this happened to you. My heart goes out to you. I myself saw a HORRIBLE delivery for my very first student nurse experience. I quit that day, but my dedicated teacher told me to "buck it up" and get back in there. I still need to here those words sometimes again! lol

anyways, lets say that she was totally noncompliant and just made some crap choices. now a baby is dead. some people do not value life like you do. you cannot force anybody to make a commitment to anything. She may in fact come back and do all the same crap again. SO, how would are YOU going to be the BETTER NURSE? guessing and complaining on how terrible SHE is wont make you better. How can you teach your patients that satisfies the requirement in YOUR OWN EYES?? How can you improve you assessment skills, people skills, ect based on this tragedy. please do NOT take this as me telling you you did anything at all wrong.

Maybe we can find a way to make this little baby;s life a legacy. Maybe her short time in utero will help you to be a better nurse for hundreds more babies in the future? Maybe you can help to save the next one that comes around? (assuming mom wants her baby to live.)

Good luck, and YOU sharing the tragedy alone I bet has already begun that baby's legacy in helping rekindle some passion in US.

Specializes in OB.
Out comes a beautiful, perfect baby girl, 9-10, no cord, no visible anomalies, not recently dead.

Not a thought, but a question....what do you mean by "no cord"? Does the cord detach when the baby dies in utero? Sorry if this sounds stupid...

Not a thought, but a question....what do you mean by "no cord"? Does the cord detach when the baby dies in utero? Sorry if this sounds stupid...

maybe no nuchal cord, not around the neck? no question is dumb!

i too had my first fetal demise.... a full term beautiful baby girl. mom had a scheduled c-section planned for the very next day - came in early due to decreased fetal movement. it was simply tragic. the cord was wrapped around her little neck twice and very tightly. i have never, in my life, experiencied such tragedy. i have miscarried myself, but the feelings i felt for this family were on a totally different spectrum. i came across this web site just yesterday.... www.aish.com

Specializes in Community, OB, Nursery.
i came across this web site just yesterday.... www.aish.com

wow, very moving website. thanks for posting.

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