New LPNs going to EC....why not?

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Hey everyone,

Im a soon to be new LPN (graduating in a week thank goodness!) and I have read in several threads and heard from many people that they dont advise new LPNs to get their RN through Excelsior.

The reason it bugs me is that through local traditional programs, the generic RN students get less clinical experience in two years than we got in one year in LPN school. I have also observed that at OUR clinical site(Im not saying generally, this is only my experience), the ASN and BSN students would be seen sitting all day long in the nursing station or simply following a nurse while us LPN students were in there actually working day in and day out. I also have heard other nurses talking about how the new RNs nowdays are clueless and seem like they never went to school a day in their life. I think its because they do so much theory they dont get a good grasp of what the one on one patient care is all about.

There are very few duties RNs do that LPNs cant, its mostly just a matter of a little more education/theory. Most LPNs who go to traditional ASN programs have said they are suprised that there really isnt a whole lot more to it, they only go into most of the same things in more detail. And as far as clinicals, they are a breeze after already taking LPN clinicals. I dont see much of a difference between LPN to RN online and RN to BSN online. You have already received the foundation. You learn the most when u actually get out there and work as a nurse, not in school. There are new RN grads out there with much less clinical experience than LPN school gives, yet everyone says you need to gain experience before going to Excelsior. I know the CPNE will be more challenging, but I dont see it as impossible. Most generic ASN programs dont require experience for their LPN to RN bridge, and EC doesnt specify this either.

Can someone please offer me another point of view? I just cant understand why this is. Not trying to start an argument here, Im genuinely interested in other opinions.

Help!!! I'm so confused!!!! I signed with the Chancellor's program for LPN to RN 5 yrs ago. Due to divorce, moving cross country, remarrying, and work, I have never actually started the program, it's all paid for. I've contacted them and they say I can still go through they're program...that's cool. Are ya'll saying that after I complete their program that I then have to go through EC program too, or can I take the CPNE? I am soooooooo ready to get my RN as LPN opportunities are becoming very limited here in NC. Would appreciate any feedback.

Here's where most people get tripped up:

Chancellor's is not a school or degree granting institution of any kind.

They are a study guide publishing company. Their "program" is not a nursing program. Their literature and ads are misleading and cause many to believe that they are a school that grants nursing degrees.

Look at your contract and find out what all of your fees have paid for. Some publishing companies work Excelsior's enrollment fees into the contract and some do not.

This is what you are going to do:

You will be applying to Excelsior College, the school that will be granting your degree. You will send them your application, school transcripts, and anything else that they may want such as a copy of your LPN license.

You will finish all of your general ed requirements such as English, A&P, micro, psych, etc. either through classes at your local college or take the Excelsior College exams and test out of them. Chancellors will have a study guide for every class that you need to complete your degree to help you pass the exams. You already paid for them so you might as well try to study and test out first, then maybe take the class if you find that the exams are too hard to pass on your own.

Then there is the nursing component. There are 7 nursing concepts exams and Chancellor's will have a study guide for each of these exams as well.

After you've passed with a "C" or better all 7 of the nursing exams and are within 9 credits of finishing your generals, you can apply to take the CPNE, again, also through Excelsior College.

Chancellor's sells study materials to help you to pass the Excelsior College exams but the entire nursing program, exams, CPNE and all, is through Excelsior college, not Chancellor's. They will be conferring your ADN when you graduate.

Hope that helps.

P.S. There are numerous other threads here that go into details about this subject.

Thanks....going to get contract out and read it again.

I'm 51 yrs. old & graduated July 2005 from a top Florida technical school's LPN program & passed the NCLEX with 89 questions (goofed on a couple of math questions & realized what the correct answers were as I pulled away in the parking lot:uhoh3: )

Nurses & DONs from hospitals & rehab ctrs. where we did our clinicals repeatedly said our school was tougher & better than another in the county next door.

Plus, 2 community college RN students complimented me at Pediatric clinicals saying they were intimidated by my superior clinical skills!

Something we heard over & over as we rotated through different hospitals & departments.

I finally got the call back from a local HCA (Hospital Corporation of America) hospital & will be starting the paperwork process of my employment right after Thanksgiving week.

Currently, I'm working in a facility that has long term, short term, & Alzheimer units.

I'm excited to go to an HCA hospital as they offer employees istudysmart.com program which is published as matching the RN classes at Excelsior University.

HCA also supports this method of upgrading your nursing credentials on their corporate website.

So, HCA hospitals & surgical centers, which are nationally located, are happy for their employees to get their degrees from Excelsior University.

That's good enough for me!

I know as a mature & self motivated student, with no kids at home & an extremely supportive hubbie, the online method allows me to work at a faster pace than traditional RN programs would.

We all have different learning styles & different lifestyles- why should there not be different programs?

Alternative college programs (weekend or online) are accepted by the business community & have been for years.

In fact, many national & international companies encourage & promote such activities by employees in their corporate policy handbooks.

If I'm an LPN working in a hospital doing Med/Surg while attending Excelsior, aren't I gathering the very skills & experiences traditional community college RN students would envy?

And shouldn't employers look at my efforts to become an RN as stronger & more dedicated for the commitment I have made to study & learn independently... without the benefits inherent in coaching by various nursing instructors, without an instructor's prodding, while working full time?

If an organization pooh-poohs an RN degree from Excelsior pursued by LPNs, they are out of step with reality & mainstream America.

If I had the luxury of time & money, I would be happy to attend a bricks & mortar school- but I don't.

ECU offers me the ability to upgrade from LPN to RN & beyond, & my employer thinks that's just fine & dandy.

Good luck to all!

janet

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