The College Network - Legit or Scam? - page 3
Hey, I recently just signed up for TCN a day ago. I have 2 more days until I can cancel my membership. I wanted to know your guys' opinion of the college network. From what the representative told me, it is accredited. They cover... Read More
- 2Dec 1, '10 by BooBear2710Quote from savvy-nurseAlso a happy customer, and nothing else.Hi...I have to agree with Nancy.
Overall impression of TCN:
TCN is not a college. Although they do offer course modules. The accreditation of the courses, I believe, comes from the companies that offer the exams you sit for. These test centers are recognized by accredited colleges. TCN is a network of accredited colleges - a broker so to speak. I signed up for my Masters program through The College Network and have been very happy with the results.
You do have to pay attention to sales pitch when you sign up. I almost signed the contract then I realised that it required me signing up for a new Commuity bank in Nevada. I belong to my local community bank so I did not sign but that meant coughig up some dough up front. In the end I saved about $750. Sure I missed the cash later but that was my choice.
The modules did work for me. I only bought the ones I felt I could follow outside of a classroom setting. I studied and passed on the first try. However, studying from the comfort of your home requires major discipline. If you have hesitations about your ability to do so, attend a community college for the classes you need. TCN did facilitate my admission process. While I attended Regis University, I met quite a few nurses that joined through TCN. They were all happy. My classroom textbooks came from Amazon.com.
Disclaimer: I have NO affiliation with TCN other than that of a happy consumer.
I agree with the Pros listed above.
I have passed all 3 Excelsior Exams using the Modules, Excelsior's Content Guides, and the recommended textbooks ( I get them from Amazon for next to nothing).
The Excelsior site does warn you against study publishing companies but not one company is mentioned. On the other hand Excelsior also tells you to NEVER use only one source or book to study with either.
The Modules are a basic stepping stone in learning outside of a classroom. I use them to get the learning process started and they have come through for me each time. If I didn't have access to them some of the content would have been lost to me because even after 17 years of on the floor bedside nursing I am still not an RN nor do I possess the advancement in education either.
It is expensive but worth it to have a little extra help when I am sitting here in Indiana and Excelsior is in New York. Most of all, I believe my success is worth more than any amount of money.
- 1Dec 1, '10 by caliotter3Quote from Dr. Tammy, FNP/GNP-CA nickel here, a nickel there. They so easily turn into five thousand dollars.I'm not sure if it's a scam or not. One thing is for sure, I'm living proof that you can graduate from both Regents College (now Excelsior) with an ADN and ISU with a BSN without spending a nickle for TCN supplies.
- 0Jul 15, '11 by 1hockadayI have read through this entire thread and have several comments. I hope they are helpful.
1. TCN is not a scam per se, IF the sales person is forthcoming with ALL details. My sales person was very dishonest and chose his words well. He left out details of the way the program works, the cost, etc.. including the fact there are only 3 days to cancel. And the three phases of the program can take up to 6yrs. Which is why there is a form that is supposed to be signed that says phase 3 can take up to 3yrs...
2. Phase 1 & Phase 2 are a combination of completing prerequisites and transition courses for the LVN to RN role. These are TCN courses...not ISU (indiana state). The length of this portion varies per student, depending on how quickly you work and take the exams. Once phase 2 is complete, you can apply to ISU for admission, but that does not get you into the school of nursing. You then have to take 2 ISU transition courses...When those are complete, you can apply to school of nursing...
3. Phase 3: The meat and potatoes of the program to get the RN portion of BSN (the rest is your math english, sociology, etc) is 4 semesters...no less which equals 2 years b/c ISU does not offer Summer session or any Winter session. I got this directly from "Millie" who is solely responsible for clinical placement of distance learners. Also, confirmed this with 3 other reps from ISU.
BOTTOM LINE: if you need to work full-time or even part-time and are not in a hurry and do not have a lot of college credits, this program may suit you. If affords learning at your own pace, not physically attending classes, and starting/stopping as life takes over.
Before you sign up, ask hundreds of questions. Do not feel pressured to sign on the first meeting with the representative... call ISU directly. Their information is online as well.
In retrospect, I would NOT sign up for this program. There are many other programs, DIRECT at the University level, that are online and totally worth it. THis is especially true if you already have a Bachelor's degree in another subject.
Wish you all well in your choices. If there is any confusion about what I have shared, please ask..will clarify
- 0Jul 18, '11 by LadyinScrubs[quote=1hockaday;5378705]i have read through this entire thread and have several comments. i hope they are helpful. [... 3. phase 3: the meat and potatoes of the program to get the rn portion of bsn (the rest is your math english, sociology, etc) is 4 semesters...no less which equals 2 years b/c isu does not offer summer session or any winter session. i got this directly from "millie" who is solely responsible for clinical placement of distance learners. also, confirmed this with 3 other reps from isu.
tcn is a book store that sells books to prepare student to enter into various programs. they are not a college and they are not accredited. some schools/universities will accept people who have taken and passed the tcn program.
tcn is not indiana state university. the nursing program at isu will accept gen ed courses from tcn. the nursing program is completely separate from tcn and the nursing program is only offered from isu.
if you are talking to millie, be aware she holds two hats--the tcn information specialist & the isu laision for california clinicals/students. for calif students, millie and tcn cohort, arrange for clinical placements for calif students only. non calif clinical placements are arranged throgh isu.
for those of you who are not aware, there are two programs -- calif and non calif. the amount of time it will take the student, once the student enters into the program, will depend on how many gen ed courses the student must take. because the calif bon has regulated that calif students at isu can take only one clinical class a semester, these students will be enrolled in the isu program longer than non-calif students.
however, you mentioned isu does not offer summer or winter sessions. your statement is not correct. for example: this year both spring and fall sessions were offered. there was no summer 2011 program. i anticipate the same for the following years.
the isu distant learning program is the only on line bsn program authorized by the calif bon. one can always enter a brick and mortor authorized adn or bsn but only the isu dl lvn to bsn program is authorized for calif residents.Last edit by LadyinScrubs on Jul 18, '11
- 0Jul 19, '11 by 1hockadayJust a quick correction...
I never said TCN and ISU were one entity. In fact, i stated numerous times throughout my post that they required SEPARATE applications, which is one of many things left out by the TCN representative.
Also to clarify, Summer =JUNE JULY AUGUST
Winter =Jan-Feb term all to itself
Fall = August/Sept thru Dec
Spring= Feb/Mar thru June
lady in scrubs stated:"However, you mentioned ISU does not offer summer or winter sessions. Your statement is not correct. For example: This year both Spring and Fall sessions were offered. There was no summer 2011 program. I anticipate the same for the following years"
So, the statement there are no WINTER sessions and RARELY SUMMER sessions is CORRECT.
Fact remains, once a student enters ISU for the RN portion, that portion alone takes 4 semesters (2 Spring and 2 Fall = 2years) This is a fact, no matter how you want to spin the months included in a "semester"..The point of my post is do not expect to be finished in less than 2years with all of the general education completed.
Please read a post thoroughly before "correcting" it...
- 0Jul 19, '11 by LadyinScrubsphase 1 & phase 2 are a combination of completing prerequisites and transition courses for the lvn to rn role. these are tcn courses...not isu (indiana state).
in all actuality, one does not need to take tcn for any courses because they are only a bookseller not an accredited educational institution. the isu phase i consists of the prerequisites for the isu lvn to bsn program. they can be taken at any accredited college or university and transferred. the isu phase 2 is the isu challenge tests are solely the responsibility of isu. one can buy tcn study guides or one can use cheaper books or study guides. however, fail one test, and you are mandated to buy the study guide(s). either way, before one can register for the challenge exams, the potential student must apply for registration with isu and receive an isu student id.
the length of this portion varies per student, depending on how quickly you work and take the exams. true and it also depends on whether the prerequisites and gen ed classes are complete, and what state one lives in.
once phase 2 is complete, you can apply to isu for admission--actually, before one can go onto the isu phase 2, one must apply to isu and obtain a student id. nothing can be done with isu without a student id.
, but that does not get you into the school of nursing. true
you then have to take 2 isu transition courses...when those are complete, you can apply to school of nursing...
true. once the isu challenge exams are passed and the nursing program's application and paperwork is complete, an acceptance letter is sent out by the nursing department. one can accept, decline, or delay start for a semester later. either way, one will be admitted under an interim permit. to become completely admitted into the program and receive credit for the challenge classes, one must pass both the transition and the assessment courses.
3. phase 3: the meat and potatoes of the program to get the rn portion of bsn (the rest is your math english, sociology, etc) is 4 semesters...no less which equals 2 years b/c isu does not offer summer session or any winter session. i got this directly from "millie" who is solely responsible for clinical placement of distance learners. also, confirmed this with 3 other reps from isu.
isu is a semester system not quarters. there are only three semesters in the program spring, summer, and fall. there may or may not be a summer semester. however, after completing the first semester, there will be no nursing classes the second semester (some students use this time to take gen ed courses), and in the third semester, clinical classes begin.
[color=#a0522d]once admitted into the program, there are 6 clinicals to pass and a number of other non-clinical nursing classes. the first semester's[color=#a0522d] assessment class is counted as one of the six. off the top of my head, i believe i remember a total of 10 clinical and non clinical classes (not including gen ed classes).Last edit by LadyinScrubs on Jul 19, '11
- 1Jul 20, '11 by Dr. Tammy, FNP/GNP-CQuote from 1hockaday3. Phase 3: The meat and potatoes of the program to get the RN portion of BSN (the rest is your math english, sociology, etc) is 4 semesters...no less which equals 2 years b/c ISU does not offer Summer session or any Winter session. I got this directly from "Millie" who is solely responsible for clinical placement of distance learners. Also, confirmed this with 3 other reps from ISU.
I'm a nursing faculty with ISU and this information is incorrect. ISU provides nursing courses all year. Presently I'm teaching N450 for the summer and have plans to teach the same and research in both fall and spring. Millie is responsible for clinical placement for California residents only.
For the rest, please do not read comments on this board and take them for fact. Contact ISU Nursing directly.
- 0Jul 24, '11 by KaringOneI wish someone had warned me that I could go straight through Excelsior & not through side companies-like RUE. I'm using Rue's books but some of them don't even follow what will be on the final test of certain classes, ie.,Lifespan of Developmental Psych. I just buy studygroup cds & study them & pass with them & send their books back. Oh, my precious, wasted, money $$$$$$$!!!!!!!