Navy Corpsmen Caught - page 5

I came across this news item in two different media outlets, and pulled this blurb from the NY Post. If you go to their Web Site, you can see the offending nurses doing the things mentioned in the... Read More

  1. by   klone
    I saw the video. I did not see anything egregious that would cause me to think "Harmful!" As someone else pointed out, considering the immaturity and lack of judgment needed to do that and post it on social media, it causes one to wonder what other stupid or harmful things are they doing in the hospital that they're NOT filming? And as another poster mentioned - what the hell is the culture and supervision in that unit that would cause them to think this is an okay thing to do, and gave them the time and opportunity to do such a thing? Where is their charge nurse as this is happening?
  2. by   TessLJ
    Quote from Julius Seizure
    I had this same question, HermioneG. I haven't been able to find actual video of the girl "making the baby dance to rap music" to be able to tell if she was handling the baby carefully or not. Obviously it wasn't appropriate to be sending out snapchats of patients, but as far as the babies safety was concerned, I don't know of any evidence to confirm that.

    As far as calling the baby a mini-satan....best keep those thoughts between you and your best friend, but what parent or peds/infant nurse can say that a crying baby hasn't gotten on their last nerve? In my opinion (and based on the facts that I know - which may not be everything), their real sin was posting this stuff on snapchat instead of keeping it to themselves.
    Navy Corpsmen, including an Alabama native, off job for obscene gesture at 'mini Satan' infants | AL.com

    Here is a link that includes the snapchat video. I don't know that it can be said that her handling of the infant was harmful, but I wouldn't have wanted anyone to handle my babies that way.

    These women were vulgar, unprofessional, and in violation of HIPAA, and I don't know if they may have also violated any military rules, but I read that criminal charges are being considered.

    Social media certainly presents a new challenge in healthcare these days. This is one example of how patients' privacy and dignity can be compromised by a moronic hospital staffer, and on the flip side, I don't think there is anything to prevent a patient or family member from posting videos or photos of hospital staff.
  3. by   AJJKRN
    Quote from kcochrane
    I know. Really? But the Navy wasn't taking GEDs when I went in. There is a difference to some when it comes to GED vs your "traditional" diploma. That was my point.
    Then you were most likely given in misinformation...

    400 Bad Request
    Last edit by AJJKRN on Sep 22 : Reason: Phones...
  4. by   nursingstudent9309
    Let me try and shed some light I'm a Navy corpsman(reserves) prior AD no we are not nurses but we definitely aren't CNA's with fancy titles we are trained more to act as Lpns without a license assisting RN's and MD's depending on where your placed. I've given meds,charted patient assessments,taken 1-2 low acuity patients, given report ect. Of course under supervision of my RN until they fell that your competency is where they feel it needs to be which could take months. What these two did is blatantly unprofessional and disgusting but every profession has there bad apples I had bad nurses and docs these are just two ****** corpsman that dont deserve to be in healthcare nor wear the uniform.
  5. by   tsm007
    Does not surprise me at ALL. Navy veteran here. Corpsman are more than CNAs. They do get a lot of training on "skills". They can do a lot of skills that traditional techs would not be able to do because they are under military laws/guidelines (but only in military facilities, can't do them anywhere else). Some of them are super cocky and think they are nurses. Some of them are fantastic. However, many of them are kids that went straight from high school to boot camp. A lot of them are still growing up so honest doesn't really surprise me. When I first heard of the article my very first thoughts were I bet they were corpsman and not nurses.
  6. by   kcochrane
    Quote from AJJKRN
    Then you were most likely given in misinformation...

    400 Bad Request
    Again it was that way when I went in. 1982. Economy was bad and they had the pick. It may have only been for women. And the military changes the rules as they need to. If you look at my original post I stated that I was referring to when I went in and had no idea what it was like now. I apologize if anyone thought I was looking down on those with a GED. Education is education.
  7. by   NunNurseCat
    Well wow...I've visited that hospital a few times, and one of my parents was born there.

    Anyway, so these Corpsmen: 1) Were on duty taking personal photos of patients 2) Violated the sacred trust of being a caregiver 3) Put themselves above their shipmates and brought the whole group down 4) Their leadership will also get an earful just for being the leadership.

    In short their Navy careers are over. They'll be discharged for bad conduct, maybe one of them could get an other than honorable. I'm not too familiar with how they decide that stuff.

    I can't help but wonder what they were thinking. I mean how can any of that behavior seem like an even remotely good idea? Are they children?

    The world they see must be so different than mine!

    Quote from DEVILDOCRN
    No, corpsman are un-licensed.
    Well that's not cool for Corpsmen! I thought they were EMTs no? Though it makes sense that no license is needed. I suppose many military roles are like that, kinda like how a military pilot/aviator does not hold a commercial pilot license.
  8. by   Axgrinder
    Another sad example of how younger people don't think before doing something irreversible online. I bet they were bored and thought it was funny, and had no idea anyone else would see it, or that they would catch the s**t storm of trouble that they are now entangled in. Plus, they can't even leave their homes now without an angry mob running them down. Nope, I bet they never thought about that at all. I feel very sorry for their families who must be mortified with shame. A tiny part of me actually pity's them - I have a son that age.
  9. by   AnnoyedNurse
    Quote from Lil Nel
    I have no idea. Is it not possible to be a Navy Corpsman AND a nurse? I hope somebody on this Site can answer the question.
    A corpsman is an enlisted servicemember. A Nurse is a commission Officer in the service. It is possible for one to first enlist in the military as a corpsman or medic, and qualify for advanced education in nursing and be commissioned into the nursing corps as an Officer.
  10. by   sirI
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  11. by   herring_RN
    In the 1990s I worked nine 8 hour shifts as registry in a Navy hospital critical care unit. I was required to have a BSN and CCRN.
    I was given a temporary ID.
    One night I notified the physician of a patient condition ans was told he would insert a Swan-Ganz catheter.
    I told the excellent charge nurse that I wasn't familiar with the equipment and would need help setting up. She told me the corpsman would do the set up and calibration.
    He was professional and competent.

    Back in the 1970s I worked with many former corpsman who had been allowed to challenge LVN boards.
    They had to adjust to the limitations of the LVN role. They had been on the battle field in Viet Nam where they had standardized procedures.
    After stopping bleeding they gave IM morphine through the clothes of injured soldiers before getting them in a helicopter for transport to a hospital.
    They started IVs for hypotension.
    At the time I was an LVN in med-surg working with excellent RNs.

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