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Well.. I guess I am going to be canned - page 4

Hi all I am a new nurse 4 mos off orientation working on a med/surge nuero floor 6 patient ratio. Its a brutal floor and yet.. I manage to survive albeit exhausted and oft times just disillusioned... Read More

  1. Visit  MommyandRN profile page
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    This is ridiculous,you should not have been fired! And yet I could see this happening at every hospital I have worked in. They have to cover their own butts in case someone sues. God forbid.

    Best of luck to you in your future career endeavors.
  2. Visit  LakeEmerald profile page
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    So sorry this happened. Hugs to you. Lesson learned. Dust off your butt and move on.
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  3. Visit  Anna Flaxis profile page
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    I'm sorry you got canned. Had this been an isolated incident, I would think firing you an overreaction, but it sounds like this was your 3rd strike, so to be honest, I'm not too surprised. I am sorry though, and hope you bounce back soon.
    hiddencatRN likes this.
  4. Visit  dansamy profile page
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    Quote from redhead_NURSE98!

    Totally off topic, but you brought it up. Ever seen the pictures of the vagina and groin area of the woman who spilled McDonald's coffee on herself? The coffee was Not. Drinkable. Caused third degree burns. Totally negligent to heat coffee to that temperature (to save a buck, mind you) and serve it through a drive thru window. It's not a matter of "coffee's hot." I encourage people who know nothing about that lawsuit to do some research on it if you're going to use it in your daily life as a debate point. Maybe watch the documentary "Hot Coffee" available on Netflix. The pictures are less than 30 minutes into the movie.
    I have never seen the pictures. I am aware of the detail that the coffee bordered on molten lava. The serving temperature was under McDonald's control and was indeed too hot.

    It also comes down to prudence on the customer's part as well. I assume that coffee is hot. I don't put the cup of hot coffee in my crotch. I put it in a cup holder. I also don't try to drink it while driving. There was certainly some ill-advised action on the customer's part.

    I know people who now don't order hot coffee at McDonald's because they find it too cool for their tastes. I prefer iced coffee drinks, so this particular issue never affected my coffee consumption. :-D

    It's not a debate point. I think both parties were responsible for their contributions to what ultimately led to the customer's injury. I think the prudent thing to do would have been to cover medical expenses with no punitive awards.

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  5. Visit  Anna Flaxis profile page
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    Quote from dansamy
    It also comes down to prudence on the customer's part as well. I assume that coffee is hot.
    Yes, we are in the OTZ (Off Topic Zone).

    I assume hot coffee is hot, but I certainly don't assume it's hot enough to cause third degree burns if I spill it on myself.
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  6. Visit  dansamy profile page
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    Quote from ~*Stargazer*~

    Yes, we are in the OTZ (Off Topic Zone).

    I assume hot coffee is hot, but I certainly don't assume it's hot enough to cause third degree burns if I spill it on myself.
    I assume that it's at least hot enough to cause second degree burns.

    My husband does this ridiculous floating thing to keep from spilling his coffee because he DOES like molten lava coffee. He's only spilled coffee maybe once or twice.

    And yeah, we're way off topic. The court ultimately decided that suit was meritorious & awarded damages.

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  7. Visit  Anna Flaxis profile page
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    World of difference between second and third degree burns, especially on the genitalia.
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  8. Visit  dansamy profile page
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    True.

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  9. Visit  BrandonLPN profile page
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    New plan: Get myself admitted to the hospital and then trick the housekeeper to put a piece of tape on me. Hello Easy Street $$$.
    NanaPoo, canoehead, BlackMagicGypsy, and 13 others like this.
  10. Visit  BrandonLPN profile page
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    Quote from redhead_NURSE98!
    Totally off topic, but you brought it up. Ever seen the pictures of the vagina and groin area of the woman who spilled McDonald's coffee on herself? The coffee was Not. Drinkable. Caused third degree burns. Totally negligent to heat coffee to that temperature (to save a buck, mind you) and serve it through a drive thru window. It's not a matter of "coffee's hot." I encourage people who know nothing about that lawsuit to do some research on it if you're going to use it in your daily life as a debate point. Maybe watch the documentary "Hot Coffee" available on Netflix. The pictures are less than 30 minutes into the movie.
    I get tired of people using the "McDonalds Coffee Incident" as an example of litigous stupidity.

    That coffee was WAY too hot, the plantiff was very seriously burnt. She would have had a serious burn simply from taking a sip. The damages she was awarded were deserved.

    There are so many more truly absurd cases out there. Its tiresome that this case is trotted out so often.
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  11. Visit  jadelpn profile page
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    Quote from Phoenix2541
    No it wasn't smart. There is no "law suit pending" My manager simply stated she "could" bring one, like anybody "can" bring a suit about anything. Tks for the empathy.
    Yes, but the patient could bring a lawsuit over the fact a male staff member was alone in her room with her cleaning it. And that certainly had nothing to do with you. However, lets focus on the tape thing, so that the alone with the psych girl get pushed aside.

    SIGH.

    You can only learn and go from here. But the entire thing stinks.
  12. Visit  Esme12 profile page
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    Quote from Lev, BS, RN
    Ummm...how would this case hold up in court? No harm was done. Sounds like this is more about the OP's safe practice rather than a potential lawsuit. I think this should have been handled differently. The blame should not have been pinned on a potential lawsuit. If the OP is off probation, I think the OP suing the hospital for wrongful firing will hold up stronger in court than the patient suing for PTSD over a piece of tape.
    It's not about the tape for the patient it's being touched by male personnel that is NOT a nurse. If this patient was raped by a male that resembled this man....and he touched her leg.....she didn't know who he was but Knew he shouldn't be "down there" touching her...it isn't a far stretch
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  13. Visit  Esme12 profile page
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    Quote from Phoenix2541
    Thank you Nurse Betty

    Your reply made me feel a lot better. The deed has been done ( I was fired) and I don't think anyone will be going to the board of nursing. The Don was present and my nurse manager along with a HR rep who was supposed to be my advocate. They were alluding to concerns about me not practicing safely going forward. I have received corrective actions (education) 2 x before this for basic job knowledge. Again, I am a NEW nurse, who handles my job duties with efficiency and autonomy because my charge nurse is usually no help. I am looking at this as a CYA from now on AND will be careful about patients, staff, managers and every damned body else. I am in Florida, no union. In the interview, I was lauded for my confidence and demeanor in never seeming to fluster as a new grad RN with the intense pace of the floor. Tks, yet got a backhanded compliment with "my never asking questions scared the manager". Um.. what? So.. maybe it is best that we separated. It seems like the place was not nurturing at all.
    Always remember HR is NEVER your friend.....2 previous incidences...they were gunning for you....take this and go forward.

    I am so sorry you are going through this.....but gt malpractice insurance people are crazy out there. It's worth the $200.00 a year.
    jadelpn, WhatNext?, GM2RN, and 2 others like this.

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