Nurses Helping Nurses
allnurses Network: Central | Jobs | Books | Newsletter
allnurses: A Nursing Community for Nurses
Home General News Blogs Articles Students Region Specialty Degrees F.A.Q.
Nursing Issues On Patient Safety /

Critical Care Staffing Patterns



Did You Know?
allnurses is the largest community for nurses on the web. We now have over 385,851 members! Join today to network with other nurses, laugh, share, and much more.
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Aug 03, 1999 12:11 PM

Critical Care Staffing Patterns


I am a fairly experianced manager of an 10 bed ICU/CCU in a Suburban Hospital with an average daily census of 6 but lately we have been experiancing low census days. Lately my Chief Nursing Officer has asked me to staff the unit when census(1-2patients) is low with One RN and on assistive person ie tech, nurses aide. I have not felt that this is a safe staffing pattern. She feels that we have to think out of the box. My question is does any critical care unit staff in this manner?


------------------
Kate


Share: Submit Thread to Facebook Submit Thread to Twitter Submit Thread to Technorati Submit Thread to Google Submit Thread to Reddit

Search Tags
None
Top

 
Advertisement
Sponsored Links
 
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Reply
13 Comments
No. 1
from Erbn Girl
Old Aug 05, 1999, 11:25 AM

Our ICU has also been experiencing it's share of low-census also, but..we have a mandatory 2-RN staff when there is 1 or 2 patients. Sounds like the hospital is cutting corners and patient safety will be compromised. I wish you luck in finding a safer alternative.
Top
 
No. 2
from Sophie
Old Aug 05, 1999, 05:10 PM

I believe what you are describing is unsafe. It would not be allowed at the hospital where I work. What happens if you are in the restroom or on your break(you ARE getting your breaks aren't you?), and the pt goes into VT? The tech can't give Lido or cardiovert the patient, so this would endanger the patients care (and life).Although an extreme example, but we are there to be able to handle sudden emergent situations and must be prepared for them, not concerned about saving the $. How would it look for the hospital if the pt in the example died, would the subsequent lawsuit be saving the hospital money? (since the hospital is more concerned about how they appear to the public rather than providing safe care). Sophie
Top
 
No. 3
from Rae
Old Aug 09, 1999, 11:43 PM

Our hospital would not allow that kind of staffing pattern. Even if we have only 1 patient in our ICU, we would have 2 RN's. This decision was recommended by our corporate legal advice. I suggest your manager look into weighing the options of cutting costs now or paying high prices during a possible litigation situation.
Top
 
No. 4
from RNfelgood
Old Sep 16, 1999, 03:26 PM

We have 3 bed unit and I have 2 years experience in Critical Care. Our Hospital is also trying to staff this way. Our nurses are really upset about this but the new CNO is trying to save money for his bonuses I guess. What can we do to fix this?. I have written to our State Board of Nurses but have not received a reply as of yet. Any suggestions? Texan RN
Top
 
No. 5
Old Sep 21, 1999, 01:50 AM

Check with your state department of health to see if they have guidelines for staffing in specialty areas.
Top
 
No. 6
from txrn1
Old Oct 18, 1999, 03:03 PM

Our units are cutting corners, too. Just last week, the hospital staffed the NICU with a nursery LVN who admitted in report that she was uncomfortable being in the NICU and was more used to well babies. Turns out, the hospital cancelled and experienced NICU nurse who has been working in this NICU for a long time, all because she was agency. Sure, they saved money, but they put an unqualified nurse in the unit.
The pedi floor used a CCU nurse <who told me she never had been on a pedi floor before> who pumped a teen full of Morphine and Demerol all shift long...then she tells me that pregnancy test results are still pending. Is the girl active, I ask, why is the test being done, routine or what? She shrugs. The girl was in for something else entirely <GI infection, I believe>.
I blame the hospitals, yes, but i also question why nurses GO to these units..fearful they will lose their jobs? Can they not call the state board and find out their rights?
Top
 
No. 7
from Socrates
Old Oct 25, 1999, 07:02 PM

Boy, this is all bringing back bad memories! I just joined today. Hello.
Nursing can be such a great thing, euphoric in making you feel in control, nurturing, etc, etc. BUT....We are at the whim of too many people that don't know what is necessary for the pt. Yeah, I've been the 1 RN in the unit with just 1 pt. Sure, I was told to call the supervisor for a bathroom break, lunch, etc, but, God forbid...whatever you do don't get diarrhea!! It could be anywhere from 10 minutes to 2 hours before she shows. Why do we do this to ourselves? You're right, fear. Nurses are a dime a dozen, and the administrators DO have the cash to pay. They're all on a power trip!

------------------
Socrates
Top
 
No. 8
from bluesboyj
Old Oct 26, 1999, 01:58 AM

txrn1, it is EXACTLY because of a fear of job loss that nurses float to areas where they don't feel comfortable. Too many judges have ruled that if a nurse refuses to float to an area where they don't feel qualified, they can be fired because nurse-hospital relationships are considered "at will" which means the nurse can quit or be fired for "no reason". Scary huh.
Top
 
No. 9
from Joanne D
Old Feb 12, 2000, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by k.Sheldon:
I am a fairly experianced manager of an 10 bed ICU/CCU in a Suburban Hospital with an average daily census of 6 but lately we have been experiancing low census days. Lately my Chief Nursing Officer has asked me to staff the unit when census(1-2patients) is low with One RN and on assistive person ie tech, nurses aide. I have not felt that this is a safe staffing pattern. She feels that we have to think out of the box. My question is does any critical care unit staff in this manner?


Our hopital would not staff with only one RN. Not even if there is only one patient.
A suggestion would be to move the patient out into a stepdown unit with one nurse at the bedside and other RN's equally qualified to care for the patient. All of our stepdown nurses have the same education and can float between the ICU/CCU and progressive care unit. That way the one patient would have quality care with no extra staff needed. You would also get your breaks and lunch. Just a thought/ides/out of the box. Joanne

Top
 
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Reply




Thread Tools


Who's Online
319 members
3,442 guests
3,761

12

Doctors-in-short-supply-responsibilities-for-nurses-may-expa...

8

Less regular sleep for ICU nurses may lead to errors

15

Nurse sends unused medical supplies to needy nations

23

Premature Births Are Fueling Higher Rates of Infant...

6

MRSA Strain Linked to High Death Rates

24

RI hospital fined $150,000 in 5th wrong-site surgery since...

64

Nursing: One of the 6 Thriving Jobs that are Here to Stay???

90

Dad Fights Hospital to Keep Baby on Life Support

12

A nurse can dream...about awesome nursing

17

California Nursing Situation - CINHC's plan to help New...



7

Why am I doing this, anyway?

0

Nurse Heal Thyself

7

My Papa, why I am the nurse I am today.

15

I made it through

11

An angel's gaze

13

A Sister Never Forgets

16

Ruby's Marbles

29

What Do Operating Room Nurses Do?

14

My Little Old Jedi

16

I love this job......

23

"I hear voices"

17

Preventing FRUTI (Foley Related Urinary Tract Infection) in...

23

Error and Attitude

10

It's Just a Shower

6

Searching for the Purpose





Sponsored Links

Currently Reading This Page: 1 (0 members & 1 guests)

Interested in the hottest topics of the week? Subscribe to the Nurse-zine Newsletter.
Enter email address: