Why do so many nurses from the Philippines come to Canada/USA? - pg.6 | allnurses

Why do so many nurses from the Philippines come to Canada/USA? - page 6

I hope nobody takes offense to this question because I certainly don't mean it in any negative way. I am just wondering why so many nurses from the Philippines are coming to Canada and the USA? I... Read More

  1. Visit  NurseCubanitaRN2b profile page
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    I worked with nurses originally from Sweden and Finland, and their English was just the best. I was very impressed. The one from Finland received her BSN in the US but she hadn't been in the US long before she started college. It's not just nurses from Scandanavia, it's the Scandanavians in general who IMO, speak and write the best English.
  2. Visit  lactamase profile page
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    Quote from ceridwyn
    This is so untrue, how rude
    Sorry if you took it that way but it's true.
  3. Visit  Silverdragon102 profile page
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    Quote from lactamase
    Sorry if you took it that way but it's true.
    I think anyone whose English is not first language if they take the time and patience to learn English will excel all it takes is patience and determination to do well. I have seen both good and bad English with nurses from the Philippines in the same way I have seen good and bad from other EU countries when they have come to England to work
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  4. Visit  lactamase profile page
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    Well anyway, I really can't say who speaks the best English but I used "than most" in my previous post to be on the safe side. My point for saying this is that most overseas Filipino workers would work on countries with English as their first or second language (maybe with an exception of Japan and the likes where Filipinos learn to speak Nihongo). Also if you're in the Philippines, you'll notice the "call-center boom" where a lot of outsourcing companies hire Filipinos as customer assistance agents for their English speaking customers.
  5. Visit  mr_tacloban profile page
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    Quote from LouisVRN
    I must say I work with a disproportionately large percentage of Filipinos as well (versus what the community is comprised of). Interestingly, despite living in a state where Hispanics are the majority, I work with NO hispanic nurses, so it definitely seems that it is at least part cultural. That being said, I enjoy working with them all and find them all to be incredibly hard working. The ones I have never have a negative attitude, never complain and are nothing but courteous and helpful, as another poster pointed out I think they are quickly snatched up because they do tend to follow policy to the T. There meds are passed on time, there documentation/charting is accurate, they do everything that is required which is more than can be said for the majority of other nurses that I work with. Not to mention occasionally, for special occasions they will bring Lumpia :redpinkhe which has to be one of the most delicious things I have ever eaten and would probably never had got the experience to try otherwise.
    thanks a lot for this post.. i feel so proud being a filipino despite all the bad news that are happening back home
  6. Visit  ceridwyn profile page
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    Wow you have no idea how offshore call centers are viewed here in
    Australia.......very poor English skills can never understand them and things are never fixed up y them.
    Overseas call centers are the biggest source of complaints for upr phone companies...having call centers is not a recommendation for good English skills, but shows cheap,scab labour with no unions.
    caliotter3, Fiona59, juan de la cruz, and 1 other like this.
  7. Visit  dlumagui profile page
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    another input.. before any filipino nurse gets accepted to a nursing job in either canada, UK or US, they undergo and pass all the necessary examinations for practicing the profession legally. it means that filipino nurses are comparable with nurses educated in either canada, UK or US.
  8. Visit  skylark profile page
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    Quote from dlumagui
    another input.. before any filipino nurse gets accepted to a nursing job in either canada, UK or US, they undergo and pass all the necessary examinations for practicing the profession legally. it means that filipino nurses are comparable with nurses educated in either canada, UK or US.
    Not entirely true : )

    Filipino nurse training is actually better in many ways than that of the UK.
    UK nurses train in only one area, adult, kids, mental health or maternity.
    In order to take the NCLEX or other foreign exam, they have to complete training in the other three areas just to be eligible. Their training also has far less Pharmacology and biochemistry content.
    As a UK trained nurse, I can see huge differences in standards between UK and Filipino nurses that I work with.
    And its far easier for a Filipino nurse to approach NCLEX than a UK one, their training is pretty much aligned to the US one. When I took NCLEX, I don't know how I would have done it without my wonderful Filipino team all studying with me on the night shift! Thanks guys!!
  9. Visit  Silverdragon102 profile page
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    Quote from skylark
    Not entirely true : )

    Filipino nurse training is actually better in many ways than that of the UK.
    UK nurses train in only one area, adult, kids, mental health or maternity.
    In order to take the NCLEX or other foreign exam, they have to complete training in the other three areas just to be eligible. Their training also has far less Pharmacology and biochemistry content.
    As a UK trained nurse, I can see huge differences in standards between UK and Filipino nurses that I work with.
    And its far easier for a Filipino nurse to approach NCLEX than a UK one, their training is pretty much aligned to the US one. When I took NCLEX, I don't know how I would have done it without my wonderful Filipino team all studying with me on the night shift! Thanks guys!!
    I would respectfully disagree

    UK training is different now to how it was a few years ago, some universities do cover all areas and some nurses have not had to make up any hours to meet US or Canada requirements. Training is different and doesn't mean any other country is better. Each has their own requirements on how they want their nurses trained
  10. Visit  skylark profile page
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    You obviously haven't met my current students : )

    We have final placemnt students, who are about to qualifiy.
    They have never heard of the GLasgow Coma Scale.
    OR that there are other antibiotics besides penicillins.
    Never heard of supra-pubic catheters.
    Or how to measure blood glucose.
    What is an arterial blood gas?
    One had not even heard of Multiple sclerosis.

    Their essay skills are second to none, but nursing is not a creative writing type occupation. Patients want to know that they know about analgesia, not about plagarism and learning styles.

    These students are in the greater London area btw.
    I'm here until October, come see for yourself: )
  11. Visit  elkpark profile page
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    Quote from skylark
    Not entirely true : )

    Filipino nurse training is actually better in many ways than that of the UK.
    UK nurses train in only one area, adult, kids, mental health or maternity.
    In order to take the NCLEX or other foreign exam, they have to complete training in the other three areas just to be eligible. Their training also has far less Pharmacology and biochemistry content.
    As a UK trained nurse, I can see huge differences in standards between UK and Filipino nurses that I work with.
    And its far easier for a Filipino nurse to approach NCLEX than a UK one, their training is pretty much aligned to the US one. When I took NCLEX, I don't know how I would have done it without my wonderful Filipino team all studying with me on the night shift! Thanks guys!!
    The fact that the US and UK use different models of nursing education doesn't mean one is better than the other. The fact that Filipino nurses are trained in the US model rather than the UK model doesn't mean that they get "better" education than UK nurses. It just means that they regard the US as a more desirable "export" destination than the UK ...
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  12. Visit  lactamase profile page
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    Quote from ceridwyn
    Wow you have no idea how offshore call centers are viewed here in
    Australia.......very poor English skills can never understand them and things are never fixed up y them.
    Overseas call centers are the biggest source of complaints for upr phone companies...having call centers is not a recommendation for good English skills, but shows cheap,scab labour with no unions.
    If it really cause that much dissatisfaction I think I'll start seeing that industry collapse. Make me believe it.
  13. Visit  Silverdragon102 profile page
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    Quote from skylark
    You obviously haven't met my current students : )

    We have final placemnt students, who are about to qualifiy.
    They have never heard of the GLasgow Coma Scale.
    OR that there are other antibiotics besides penicillins.
    Never heard of supra-pubic catheters.
    Or how to measure blood glucose.
    What is an arterial blood gas?
    One had not even heard of Multiple sclerosis.

    Their essay skills are second to none, but nursing is not a creative writing type occupation. Patients want to know that they know about analgesia, not about plagarism and learning styles.

    These students are in the greater London area btw.
    I'm here until October, come see for yourself: )
    Supra pubic catheter, well not everyone sees them, I know I didn't see one until after I was qualified. If they don't know how to monitor blood glucose then their placement is lacking. I know where I worked up north the students to the most part was well trained and aware of basic nursing needs and how to perform basic nursing actions.

    If this is the case with students you are seeing then it is up to you to bring this to the attention of the tutors.


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