Philippine Board of Nursing to stop Second Coursers from taking up Nursing

is it really that BON is discriminating against second coursers because they have less clinicals/RLE's (or whatever else is lacking in their training/credentials) than first coursers? if they are, well they should be given a pat in the back for doing their job. however, if the schools found with inadequate programs go unpunished for accepting enrollees, then i take it back (and give BON something else....) someone hit the nail in the head by saying the schools should be crucified first for this HUGE mistake. if the poor graduates are to be rejected for getting their nursing degree with these schools, i'd say, they were robbed, doubly, of their money and their dreams.

this should serve to warn us pinoys how even education can be just another big business...BE CAREFUL of diploma mills. the BON's got a serious responsibility on its shoulders ensuring pinoy nurses step up to the plate. right now, we may the biggest source of nurses to the us (china and inda i believe contribute merely a third of our numbers...) but our passing rate is a so-so 40%.

Does this cover all 2nd coursers? I really can't figure out what good will this bring.

In my opinion, the regular 4 yr. course in itself is bloated. Other countries just needs 2-3 yrs for their program. I think this is thinking backwards. We should be concentrating on being competitive and producing quality competent graduates and adding more years isn't the answer it's the quality of education.

This is bothersome. I wonder how India, China, and other countries are dealing with their nursing programs and migration issues?

The Phils. will be left behind if this continues.

Just my two cents. :)

Our nursing program are geared towards a BSN degree so it means four years in college is needed. Otherwise, we could just go back before the early 1980's wherein our nursing program were only two years

Our nursing program are geared towards a BSN degree so it means four years in college is needed. Otherwise, we could just go back before the early 1980's wherein our nursing program were only two years

One of my grandma even told me she took nursing for 5 yrs. It used to be 5 back then. So I think we're already lucky we only take 4 yrs. And another thing, why would BON question UST for its program?...ust is very strict and truly live up to its standard. They make sure they follow what BON is asking for. Students there take their RLEs starting 2nd yr compared to 3rdyr in other school. Im not trying to start a fight here.. just dont question the school again. UST never take 2nd courser unless they start in freshman. Just the truth.

One of my grandma even told me she took nursing for 5 yrs. It used to be 5 back then. So I think we're already lucky we only take 4 yrs. And another thing, why would BON question UST for its program?...ust is very strict and truly live up to its standard. They make sure they follow what BON is asking for. Students there take their RLEs starting 2nd yr compared to 3rdyr in other school. Im not trying to start a fight here.. just dont question the school again. UST never take 2nd courser unless they start in freshman. Just the truth.

Did anyone questioned about this school ?? Did I miss something?

This school is very good indeed, esp. on the medical and sciences.

Our nursing program are geared towards a BSN degree so it means four years in college is needed. Otherwise, we could just go back before the early 1980's wherein our nursing program were only two years

Does the length of years a prerequiseite to get a BS degree ??

Four years needed to get a BS degree ??

The curriculum is the most impt. thing and how long will it take to finish it. Nowadays, you can get a BS degree in 3 yrs for some programs in a certain university in the Phils and for those 2nd coursers who took up nursing as a 2nd or 3rd degree knows that it can be done in 2-3 years and they are doing well in the local board exams as well.

While I'm at it. Do you think increasing our HS program to 5 yrs instead of the current 4 yrs would make a diff.? That's what I mean of being bloated.Quality education is the key not length of years. That is why if it were all even at 4 yrs for BS nursing why is that the passing rate for each school is so extreme? Again, quality education.

A lot of excess non-related and essential subjects are integrated in all our curriculum, incl. BS nursing. Take away all the fats and you can do it in less than 4 and you'll be forced to concentrate on only the essential subjects related to your course.

Just my two cents. :)

One of my grandma even told me she took nursing for 5 yrs. It used to be 5 back then. So I think we're already lucky we only take 4 yrs. And another thing, why would BON question UST for its program?...ust is very strict and truly live up to its standard. They make sure they follow what BON is asking for. Students there take their RLEs starting 2nd yr compared to 3rdyr in other school. Im not trying to start a fight here.. just dont question the school again. UST never take 2nd courser unless they start in freshman. Just the truth.

Same here. The school where I graduated started RLE on the first sem of the 2nd year.

Does the length of years a prerequiseite to get a BS degree ??

Four years needed to get a BS degree ??

The curriculum is the most impt. thing and how long will it take to finish it. Nowadays, you can get a BS degree in 3 yrs for some programs in a certain university in the Phils and for those 2nd coursers who took up nursing as a 2nd or 3rd degree knows that it can be done in 2-3 years and they are doing well in the local board exams as well.

While I'm at it. Do you think increasing our HS program to 5 yrs instead of the current 4 yrs would make a diff.? That's what I mean of being bloated.Quality education is the key not length of years. That is why if it were all even at 4 yrs for BS nursing why is that the passing rate for each school is so extreme? Again, quality education.

A lot of excess non-related and essential subjects are integrated in all our curriculum, incl. BS nursing. Take away all the fats and you can do it in less than 4 and you'll be forced to concentrate on only the essential subjects related to your course.

Just my two cents. :)

From where I graduated, first year, pre-requisites, RLE duty starts on the first sem of the 2nd year. I am ok with a 4year course as long it is BSN. Five years is more than already. If there are two years program similar in the past, then there is no problem with me. I agree with you regarding quality education.

since the thread's into quality education, schools...i'm curious----to the best of your knowledge, what are the top schools offering BS nursing degree NOW in the philippines?

(you can name 3 top schools exclusively for first degree seekers and 3 schools that offer second degree nursing.)

TOP SCHOOLS (EXCLUSIVELY FIRST DEGREE)

1.

2.

3.

TOP SCHOOLS (ALSO OFFERING SECOND DEGREE)

1.

2.

3.

let's not consider COSTS...just QUALITY...i hope this won't be more controversial than it should be informative to readers.

thanks!

since the thread's into quality education, schools...i'm curious----to the best of your knowledge, what are the top schools offering BS nursing degree NOW in the philippines?

(you can name 3 top schools exclusively for first degree seekers and 3 schools that offer second degree nursing.)

TOP SCHOOLS (EXCLUSIVELY FIRST DEGREE)

1.

2.

3.

TOP SCHOOLS (ALSO OFFERING SECOND DEGREE)

1.

2.

3.

let's not consider COSTS...just QUALITY...i hope this won't be more controversial than it should be informative to readers.

thanks!

UP, UST, maybe DLSU-Dasma for 1st degree

Schools offering 2nd degree is hard because it depends on the batch of students that's why there is no consistent schools for this.

This is just all my opinions ok. It's base on the rankings on passing rates

hi lawrence01... it looks like the older, more reputable schools in the phils. don't like the idea of offering second degree nursing. what could be the problem? in the us, accelerated BSN for second degree seekers is offered by a good number of private universities and it's quite respectable. i think it isn't such a bad idea to adopt such program while the demand's great. the second courser thing wouldn't be as hot now as it would be in the future when pinoys become more attuned to what they want (who plans on going to college twice, anyway?), and quite possibly, more nurses will be available from other countries (read:china, india, etc.).

hi lawrence01... it looks like the older, more reputable schools in the phils. don't like the idea of offering second degree nursing. what could be the problem? in the us, accelerated BSN for second degree seekers is offered by a good number of private universities and it's quite respectable. i think it isn't such a bad idea to adopt such program while the demand's great. the second courser thing wouldn't be as hot now as it would be in the future when pinoys become more attuned to what they want (who plans on going to college twice, anyway?), and quite possibly, more nurses will be available from other countries (read:china, india, etc.).

Yap, that's the great question. Why?? I'd like to know too.

It's arguably understandable for those universities that also offer medical degrees and have a hospital of their own to not offer it to their MDs but for 2nd coursers as a whole and those schools who don't have medical courses it isn't understandable.

Now, there are talks that 2nd coursers should take the whole 4 yr program and will not credit any subjects from their other degrees.

I see your point too. Backward thinking is what's happening and I won't be surprised if china, and india overtake the philippines regarding this.

Yap, that's the great question. Why?? I'd like to know too.

It's arguably understandable for those universities that also offer medical degrees and have a hospital of their own to not offer it to their MDs but for 2nd coursers as a whole and those schools who don't have medical courses it isn't understandable.

Now, there are talks that 2nd coursers should take the whole 4 yr program and will not credit any subjects from their other degrees.

I see your point too. Backward thinking is what's happening and I won't be surprised if china, and india overtake the philippines regarding this.

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you mean those with hospital affiliations can't offer 2nd degree nursing more than those without? i feel that's even stranger, don't you think so? they have the facility to accommodate the training so they should be more able to offer second course nursing. they can always do qualifying tests/evaluation of students to limit enrollment so there's no question about over-burdening their instructors (and keeping the QUALITY, too).

i think the first top school to adopt accelerated BSN for career shifters will be most progressive. btw, what has happened to uerm, feu and plm? would you know if these schools allow second coursers?