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- Oct 16, '08 by ladynurse1LPN's are employed in hospitals, nursing homes, physcians offices basically anywhere that an RN is employed and there is no problems in the US with LPN's getting clinical hours in order to practice. The technical/vocational schools that offer the LPN program have contracts with hospitals and nursing homes that allow them to do clinical hours.
- Oct 16, '08 by ladynurse1Here in TN there isn't any problems with LPN's getting enough clinical hours to practice. I actually haven't heard of this being a problem anywhere in the US since the schools that offer LPN have contracts with the hospitals and nursing homes that allow them to do clinicals. LPN's can work in nursing homes, physicians offices, and hospitals. LPN's are allowed to work anywhere that an RN can in the US. They have to work under the direction of either an RN or a Physician and their scope of practice is different. Here in TN there are still opportunities in hospitals for LPN's. If you are a US citizen, then I would say LPN is a good stepping stone. If you are not a citizen, I would say it was a waste of time and money.
- Oct 16, '08 by suzanne4There are a few things that you are not mentioning in your posts, and that is that not all states are going to accept the training from the Philippines for licensure. For those that require a local license, it is impossible to get one since the Philippines does not recognize the training. Training done in the Philippines is not going to give anyone clinical hours in the US, and since the government does not recognize the training and those that live there are not familiar with what the LPN can do, that makes it even harder for them to get the experience that they need.
And there are issues with getting a job as an LPN in certain areas in the US and that is growing. You are not going to find one hospital in the Bay Area that is hiring LVNs any longer, the only jobs available are in nursing homes and this is actually going on in many other locales as well. Because there are jobs in your area, does not mean that they exist everyone for the LPN/LVN.
- Oct 19, '08 by Ginger's MomFirst of all the PN programs in the US are 9 months to 12 months in length. Why go double the time in a Foreign country. In my area all qualified candidates are offered admission, to be admitted they must pass an English and Math test. If you are not able to pass this test you will not be able to pass the NCLEX.
I have been an instructor in a PN program our students complete two rotations in a skilled facility. When a LPN is employed in SNF they are responsible for up to 40 patients per shift and the SNF ( Nursing Home) is second to a nuclear plant for regulations. We also teach delegation since the LPN over see the CNA s would are providing the hands on care ( on the LPN license).
I doubt the PN programs in Philippines have exposure to skilled nursing programs. Or have the opportunity to pass medications to 20 patients under the guidance of an instructor's license. Or do treatments and documentation correctly for 40 patients. Or teach delegation and supervision.
Most SNFs will give minimal orientation, if an error occurs, the Board of Public Health comes and reviews issues, if all the rules are not followed the nurse will loose their license.
So my question, why go to a school in the Philippines for 2 years, when one could be practicing in one year. Factor in the time you have to have the application evaluated,d travel costs, and the extended time to find a position, what is the advantage?
My last point, most PN programs have arrangements with RN programs to allow PN nurses to go to an LPN-RN program which is one year in length. I don't think foreign grads can avail themselves of this type of program.
- Oct 19, '08 by Fiona59I doubt PNs educated in the Phillipines would be permitted to work in Canada. My province currently has BScNs (yes, you read that correctly) working as LPNs. This was permitted after they received remedial workshops in order to bring their skill level up to the PN scope of practice. The area between RN and LPN scope of practice is very fine and very grey at this time.
My province requires four semesters to work as a PN. Clinical time is acquired in LTC, surgical, medical, psych, maternity, peds and the community. The "L" is only granted after the examination process is completed and a practice permit issued.
There are no two year RN programmes in my province, so you either go the PN or BScN route. It's two years or four.
- Oct 19, '08 by suzanne4Having an LPN license alone from the Philippines will not get one a visa to work in Canada. Those that you are hearing about going to work in Canada as LPNs are actually four year BSNs who went thru an entire program and actually qualified to write the NCLEX-RN program as well as their own NLE. Training in Canada for the LPN is also different from the US in that it is now closer to two years in many of the provinces.
Again, it does not matter what the school tells you or any agency, the fact remains that this training is not accepted for a visa in any country in the world. Being able to sit for a licensure exam does not give you permission to work in a country.