American Nurses Association Urges New Tests for Philippine Nurses - page 2

03/05/07 ANA Urges New Tests for Philippine Nurses Seeking to Practice in the U.S. The American Nurses Association (ANA) is urging the Philippine government to facilitate a retake of the nurse... Read More

  1. by   lawrence01
    Every one should just thank CGFNS that only test 3 and 5 are being required for the re-take and we provided the link for the official announcement from ANA for everyone's interpretation. This is not rumor or gossip.
    Last edit by lawrence01 on Mar 9, '07
  2. by   lawrence01
    3/9/07

    Update: CGFNS has also just recently posted ANA's Official Statement as well on their website and an official communication was also sent by ANA last Feb 28 addressed to the Phil BON, DOLE and PRC but not sure when it was actually received by the intended parties as both the task force delegation that went to PA and the CGFNS weren't aware of it on the time of their meeting for the appeal process last March 5, 2006.

    *Note that ANA's Statement was only officially posted on their website last March 5, 2007 even though the dated press release was March 2, 2007.
    http://nursingworld.org/news/ananews.htm

    While CGFNS also just recently posted the same statement on their website.
    http://www.cgfns.org/sections/announcements/
  3. by   cherrycoke
    Oops, I hear people singing, "Uh oh we're in trouble.."
    Rep is right. The retake is a bitter pill to swallow but it is in fact the only way to go. I know June passers can do it a 2nd time. If not, then you're still RNs in the Philippines, isn't that good news?
  4. by   lawrence01
    Quote from lawrence01
    3/9/07

    Update: CGFNS has also just recently posted ANA's Official Statement as well on their website and an official communication was also sent by ANA last Feb 28 addressed to the Phil BON, DOLE and PRC but not sure when it was actually received by the intended parties as both the task force delegation that went to PA and the CGFNS weren't aware of it on the time of their meeting for the appeal process last March 5, 2006.

    *Note that ANA's Statement was only officially posted on their website last March 5, 2007 even though the dated press release was March 2, 2007.
    http://nursingworld.org/news/ananews.htm

    While CGFNS also just recently posted the same statement on their website.
    http://www.cgfns.org/sections/announcements/
    Pls. do take note of the dates. Actual posting on ANA'a website was done on March 5, 2007 (even though the press release dated their was March 2) after the meeting or during the meeting between CGFNS and the Phil Delegation for the appeal. The two parties obviously did not yet know of ANA's Statement only after a few days and the communication dated Feb 28 2007 probably did not reach the intended parties before the March 5, 2007 meeting. Even CGFNS only just recently posted the said statement on their website now.

    *Note: We have posted the said Statement just hours after it was actually posted on March 5, 2007 from ANA's website so we know that there were lags or delays on postings in contrary to what was dated on the press releases, namely March 2, 2007 for the Official pdf file statement and Feb 28. 2007 for ANA's letter to PRC, BON, and DOLE.
  5. by   xyacivx
    hi! many june 2006 passers like me had been judged.. i do not know when all these things will be put to rest.. everybody seems to be making decisions for us. they recomputed our scores, cgfns decided for us to retake test3 n 5 here's ana again making us take another exam... o god! all we did was took the nle exam and all of these horrible things are coming to us... nobody even bothered to ask us how we feel, how are going to resolve this matter... is this some kind of racial discrimination???
  6. by   suzanne4
    Quote from xyacivx
    hi! many june 2006 passers like me had been judged.. i do not know when all these things will be put to rest.. everybody seems to be making decisions for us. they recomputed our scores, cgfns decided for us to retake test3 n 5 here's ana again making us take another exam... o god! all we did was took the nle exam and all of these horrible things are coming to us... nobody even bothered to ask us how we feel, how are going to resolve this matter... is this some kind of racial discrimination???
    nobody is saying anything about you, but about the cheating that went on by some. and the lack of your government doing anything about it, though they insist that they are still investigating. but the three review centers at the middle of it all are open with business as usual.

    you are free to do as you please in your country, and work there, but if you wish to come to the us, then you must abide by the rules of the us.

    if you prepared properly for that exam in the first place, it should not be an an issue to retest. plain and simple. and that is all that we are saying. this has been discussed over and over again. and it is what we have been saying all along, retake and then get on with your career.

    your choice as to what you wish to do.
  7. by   pinoy_guy
    but it wouldn't change a thing.

    we are only pointing out the most logical solution to this mess.

    i wouldn't even be researching this issue if not for my students in this batch.


    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/topoftheh...?storyid=69501

    us nurses' group urges full retake for june 2006 board passers


    in its release posted on its web site (www. nursingworld.org), the american nurses association (ana) maintained that only the applications of filipino nurses who pass the new examination will be considered.
    we have the same interpretation.


    with a membership of 2.9 million nurses, ana was one of the strongest proponents of the pre-screening provision under the illegal immigration reform and immigrant responsibility act of 1996.

    under the said provision, foreign-educated nurses are required to undergo pre-screening as part of the temporary or permanent occupational visa application process.
    so ana is a strong lobby group.


    the report said ana has sent a letter on february 26 to leonor rosero, chairwoman of professional regulation commission, to make its stand known but the government kept it a secret.
    secrets.

    another "national security" issue?

    she is very stubborn.

    would rather burn down the entire philippine nursing world rather than save it.


    ana's statement is another blow to the efforts of the government to convince the united states to allow the filipino nursing graduates who passed the june 2006 examinations to work there without retaking the leaked portions of the test.
    with the bacolod congressman's vow to take the "fight" to the us congress...that is worrying.

    i'm praying that cgfns does not blacklist the 0606 batch...but with this new action being contemplated, i worry the us congress might blacklist our nurses for a period of time.


    wake up, people! you're in a burning house.

    stop the people running around with the flaming torches.
  8. by   brita_mylove
    What can we say? Of course we are very "thankful" that we still have our local license even if it will not feed our families. We are not ingrate, only autistic. Do we have any say in the matter? of course, none. Who are we, anyway, just some poor victims of dirty politics, of some influencial people who did not attain their aspirations of landing their protegees to the top ten list but instead these ace-students failed in the exams. Of course, we have to pay for that, too. I know you all mean well, but we cannot help but be bitter about all this. I know a lot of my batch are crying bucket of tears with the latest news from ANA. All I can do is just laugh at our miseries. We get numbed each day and become zombies with whatever comes our way. "Do what the master tell you or else." I wonder if there will be more worse news than this to come. We just have one question in our mind right now. How come the ANA and the CGFNS did not coordinate with the matter of retake and come up with one solution so that the june batch will only get slap in one cheek and not both cheeks? Please do not tell us because they are both different agency and have their own rules to lay down. If that will be the case, then how many more agencies should we expect to crucify us? We need to be prepared. After all, we might be expected to carry a heavy cross in order to reach our "dream" destination.
  9. by   pinoy_guy
    http://www.manilatimes.net/national/...70310top1.html

    us nursing group wants full retake


    the american nurses association (ana) has added to the woes of the filipino nurses of batch june 2006 licensure exam: ana urges them to retake the entire licensure exam not just tests 3 and 5.

    ana's members include hospital nursing supervisors and administrators throughout the united states. they have a say in the hiring of hospital personnel.

    the professional regulation commission (prc) learned about this recommendation from a letter of patton dated february 28 and addressed to the prc board of nursing chairman.

    the prc bon has not informed the june 2006 batch and the public of this letter.

    patton told the prc that her association's board of directors "gave serious consideration to the implications the compromised exam, particularly given the public's reliance on this process as a measure of nursing knowledge. as a result of these deliberations, the ana board passed a resolution stating that all passing applicants of the june 2006 philippine nurse licensure examination, wishing to be considered for entrance into the united states to practice nursing, should be required to retake a new and different nurse licensure test and obtain a passing score."

    but she made it clear that the ana's recommendation is being made precisely to make sure that the health of americans are not made to suffer by the entry to the usa of filipino nurses who might not have been properly tested or became licensed nurses despite "the compromised exam."

    ana, the only full-service professional organization representing the interests of the usa's 2.9 million registered nurses with 54 constituent member nurses organizations, released its recommendation "to the philippine government" to the us medical media on march 2.

    sorry for the people who want to "sweep things under the rug."


    there are checks and balances for nursing in the us. cgfns, ana, aha.


    despite repeated pronouncements that the philippine government had dealt "decisively" with the leakage issue, it should be noted that it took almost 9 months before charges were filed against the 2 bon members. nothing definite on the 15 other "involved" people.

    and the charges against the 2 bon members were only filed after cgfns came out with their statement not to give visascreen certificates to the 0606 batch.


    cgfns is on to the old tricks.


    nothing short of conviction of all guilty parties with finality will do.


    a whitewash would not do.


    what's sad is that we should have known the right thing to do, and should have just done it.

    no rallies, no protests, no temporary restraining orders.


    now 2 us organizations, cgfns and ana, have pointed out our flaws...diplomatically. will other us healthcare organizations join the chorus?


    i can surmise that if our government does not get the hint, the hammer will fall.


    and the most logical "calibrated response" would be a ban.


    i doubt making another "appeal" at that point would be fruitful.


    americans are serious about patient safety.


    and what have all these "appeals" done?

    nothing much. it just focused us (& world?) attention on the dishonesty of some filipinos.

    what should have been a minor blip on the radar, a leakage anomaly quickly forgotten, had become a tumor of cephalic proportions.

    nothing good came of it, except to cast a negative light on filipino nurses.


    and what became of the 2 witnesses who testified before the senate that all 5 tests of the nle had been leaked???


    the people who cry "persecution" when others opine that a retake is necessary should begin thinking about the issue from a higher perspective.


    nobody is accusing them of cheating. for me, they are the victims in this case.


    if they continue to complain...future batches of our nurses will be drawn into the mess.


    we really should do something about that crab mentality.

    if you're in a hole, do something about it. don't drag others in with you into the fiasco. and don't accuse people who want to help you out of the hole of accusing you of being cheats.


    people here had been stating the obvious and most logical way out; the few people who listened have clean philippine rn licenses, we had been vindicated.


    good luck to members of batch 0606, whatever you decide.
  10. by   nursedandy
    What are the implications of ANA's decision with regards to the june 2006 passers? Will this affect the CGFNS stand for test 3&5 retake only? Just wondering if ANA has the authority not to allow june 2006 to work in the US, just in case they will eventually have the visascreen on hand?:uhoh21:
  11. by   Aquarian
    Thanks, Lawrence for keeping us informed. Keep up the good work!
  12. by   lawrence01
    Quote from nursedandy
    What are the implications of ANA's decision with regards to the june 2006 passers? Will this affect the CGFNS stand for test 3&5 retake only? Just wondering if ANA has the authority not to allow june 2006 to work in the US, just in case they will eventually have the visascreen on hand?:uhoh21:
    It may affect CGFNS' earlier stand for just the test 3 and 5 re-take, esp. now that CGFNS has the official ANA Statement w/ them already as evidenced by their posting of the same statement on their website yesterday.

    In addition, they still have the bad taste on their taste buds from the appeal group last March 5 and CGFNS do monitor closely the Philippine media and I'm pretty sure they know what a certain politician has been saying about their organization via the local media. Everything is in the Internet nowadays and CGFNS do have representatives here in the Philippines, so they are fully aware.

    Also, if we would analyze ANA's official statement we can read there that they reminded CGFNS/ICHP of their role as one of the advocates, if not the main advocate, of a pre-screening program for foreign nurses. This is subtly saying that they have a say regarding this issue as well.

    Put all the above together, and we can safely deduce that CGFNS would be greatly considering the proposal.

    *All of the above are just base on my personal analysis and deductions as requested by a member.
    Last edit by lawrence01 on Mar 30, '07 : Reason: removed embeded links
  13. by   suzanne4
    And no one here has been crucifying anyone. If you take the time to do a search here, back at the time when all of this came out, we were telling everyone to go for the retest. It could have been done in December and then life would continue on as usual.

    You have your licenses for the Philippines, and that is fine. But if your goal has been to work in the US, then you need to meet their requirements. And they have been talking of a retake since last August, this is nothing new at all. And it was discussed in all of the papers there since that time.

    But your wonderful politicians that just came over here when they were told not to visit CGFNS, more than likely have made things worse for all of you. They are the ones that need to be crucified as you call it, and definitely not re-elected. And for that one to tell Americans to be very careful if they come to the Philippines has a screw loose and needs medication.

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