MSN or PhD?!?!?
- 0May 24, '04 by blkdawnI already have a Bachelor's in Sociology and a Masters in Public Health (Epidemiology). I am currently pursuing an ADN. If I pursue the MSN, I have to wait a year and at the end of two years after that (total 3 years), I'll be done. - OR - I could start on a PhD now and at the end of that (total 3 years), be finished with that.
I am really really interested in becoming a Nurse-Midwife, but I also have aspirations towards Research as well as being ADON or DON somewhere. Any advice anyone?
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- 0May 24, '04 by wannabeeI have a BS in zoology and decided to become an RN. I checked into both the ADN and BSN programs and it was only going to take me 1 extra semester to get my BSN as opposed to the ADN. I would think it would be about the same for a sociology degree. I'm just curious why you opted for the ADN instead of the BSN program??? I don't start until next January, so I'm still trying to get all the information I can about all the programs, although I am pretty committed to the course I'm on. I'm just really nervous about getting accepted!
- 0May 24, '04 by blkdawnQuote from wannabeeWell, here the ADN program is 15 months long and the BSN program is a full two years...Besides, the ADN program offered a night/weekend option and the BSN's around here didn't. I'm not willing to give up my day job to go to school full-time. The BSN also costs more per credit. I also had a really hard time going back for a Bachelor's degree when I already hold a Masters.I have a BS in zoology and decided to become an RN. I checked into both the ADN and BSN programs and it was only going to take me 1 extra semester to get my BSN as opposed to the ADN. I would think it would be about the same for a sociology degree. I'm just curious why you opted for the ADN instead of the BSN program??? I don't start until next January, so I'm still trying to get all the information I can about all the programs, although I am pretty committed to the course I'm on. I'm just really nervous about getting accepted!
...but that's just my situation.
- 0May 24, '04 by llg GuideHow can you get a PhD in nursing in only 3 years with only an ADN? I've never heard of such a quick option and doubt that you understand the facts correctly -- or suspect that it is not a legitimate program. Every PhD program that I am aware of requires at least 3 years beyond a MSN or 5 years beyond a BSN. Even with the Master's in another field, I am surprised they would not make you get at least a Bachelor's in nursing before progressing on to the doctoral level nursing courses. -- or would your PhD not be in nursing?
I would double-check your information to be on the safe side. I could be wrong, and if I am, please give me the name of the school that makes it so easy to get a PhD in nursing so that I can check it out and perhaps recommend it to friends.
- 0May 24, '04 by elkparkIt sounds like you're not interested in relocating to go to school, but, if you know you want to pursue nurse midwifery, I wonder if you've considered the direct entry Master's programs? They take people who have a baccalaureate degree in something else (but I'm sure they wouldn't hold your Master's against you! :chuckle ), you do one year of basic nursing and then go right into the MSN program.
Since you asked for advice, I would encourage you strongly not to limit yourself to options that don't require you to give up your day job or move. This is the rest of your life you're talking about! If there is a program somewhere else that really interests you, I would encourage you strongly to pick up and go there and do it. Student loans and scholarships are plentiful (esp. for nursing) and repayment is relatively painless. Also, there are some programs that allow you to "work off" the loans instead of paying them back. Whatever path you choose, it's going to require a lot of blood, sweat, and tears (and $$$$) -- you might as well have the education and degree you really want when you're done. SCHOOL IS (comparatively) SHORT -- LIFE IS LONG!!
Best wishes with whatever you decide --
- 0May 25, '04 by blkdawnTopCat1234:Yes an ADN is further behind than a Master's, but I come out with a certification that I couldn't get otherwise...i.e. RN
llg: No, the PhD would not be in nursing. I've found an online program in Organizational Leadership that seems promising (so far).
elkpark: I've moved my husband 6 times in the past 5 years to further my career or education. We just closed on the latest house this past February. I'm done with moving!
I really appreciate everyone taking the time to help me with this decision.
- 0May 25, '04 by TopCat1234ba in sociology
mph master's public health
adn registered nurse
ph.d organizational leadership
and then perhaps become an adon or don or research?
ba in sociology
mph master's public health
adn registered nurse
msn master's nursing
and then perhaps become a nurse mid-wife?
am i understanding correctly?
- 0May 26, '04 by TopCat1234i was just trying to get a better idea of what decision you are trying to make--i guess it depends on where exactly you want to be: management vs patient care.
however, i think even as a nurse mid-wife you could possibly move into management. either way, you will need to pay your dues in direct patient care once you receive your adn...
i think i will defer to the experts around here...