Question for atheist nurses

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I am just at the very beginning of my nursing education, so forgive me if I am being presumptuous, but my preliminary understanding of the nurse's understanding of the human is that we incorporate body, mind, and spirit. Those of you who profess atheism, do you utilize this understanding, or do you see humans as strictly body and mind? or something else I'm not thinking of? TIA!

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Albeit a thread directed at atheists. Shouldn't the poster start his/her own thread with links to their church?

I understand @ Esme, but I agree with Sweet, there is a thread that is established for what that particular poster decided to do in a thread for understanding atheists. Although we cannot control what people post, however, that certain posts that are directed at "educating" someone on a personal decision is a tad....um...unprofessional, just my opinion. I'm not an atheist, but I believe instead of engaging in understanding the POV of an atheist, it is not respecting the viewpoint of this thread as a whole...I would feel the same way if this was a spiritual thread and there were intruding remarks on spirituality and religion...some of the posts have turned "flame-ish"...

Still a good thread though about understanding how we can have a common ground despite our personal belief system...nursing!

I just want to say I was not trying to offend anyone or make them feel discriminated. I posted a nice post on my "pov" because I care. In no way am I trying to condemn anyone or make anyone upset or angry. I care and that's how I am. When you know the truth, you want others to know. This post isn't about me, it's about the maker of this universe. Again, I am not trying to start an argument

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When you know the truth, you want others to know.

*** Yes I understand this point of view. As an atheist I know that religious people are wasting their time and money with all that worship. I want them to see the truth and stop wasting all that time in church, stop wasting all that money to support churches, stop killing other people in the name of their religion (think 9/11), put all those clergy people to productive use.

However I refrain from trying to change people's minds on forums like these. If I can you can too.

This post isn't about me, it's about the maker of this universe.

*** Maybe but you must know that simply stating something not known to be a fact (by atheists and non Christians), as a fact (like the existence of a maker of the universe) you will start an argument. If you wish to state such things without starting an argument you should stick to forums where everybody is like minded. Other wise expect your comments to draw comments in return.

God doesn't tell people kill others. I don't want to be at the end of the world and have someone ask me why I didn't tell them, or not make it out to be an important truth

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I just want to say I was not trying to offend anyone or make them feel discriminated.

Well ...now you know that your post was offensive to some of us ... and you can delete that post, apologize, or simply stop offending us. That's what I did earlier in the thread when someone pointed out that my equating a belief in the supernatural to a belief in magic was offensive to some Christians. I said that I didn't intend to be offensive and changed my wording.

I think you should do something similar now that you know that your posts have been offensive to the atheists for whom this thread was created.

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God doesn't tell people kill others. I don't want to be at the end of the world and have someone ask me why I didn't tell them or not make it out to be an important truth[/quote']

^What is truth???

Again, for me, because we are having a discussion on people's personal truths, I understand YOUR truth. However, your approach, as previous posters stated is a factual account on how a percentage of people love to approach atheists and any form of a "non-believer", yet you are still not understanding how that approach can be construed as not respectful. Instead of "educating" one who has a confirmed truth and belief system, how about examine their responses? Is it THAT imperative to "proclaim" towards a discussion that is not geared towards that??

If the end if the world comes, que sera; I don't think anyone on here is going to ask you "why didn't you tell me"...I know I won't, and again, I'm not an atheist...I can say the posters in this thread are secure in their beliefs. Thanks for your effort, but, at least for me, I'll pass. Still flame-ish to me.

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I am so sorry for coming off in the wrong way to many of you. I would love to understand why any of you feel as if there is no God or why Jesus wasn't real or why we do not need a savior. I want to be understood just as much as you all want to be understood. I am sorry if I seemed like I was attacking anyone and I am sorry to God as well if I did not write every word out of love for his people. I know I do not like to feel attacked and obviously posting in this thread, I am the one with stuff being thrown in my face. Think of it this way....Jesus is my bestfriend and I believe he is God and saved me, and I see people who do not think He is good or real, I cannot help but to say something. Heaven found the only way to me through Jesus Christ. It's not that I found Jesus so that I can go to heaven or just to make myself feel better, but that I want to glorify God because he is just that great and deserves it all. That's my father and I love him and he wants the best for all of his children. Again, I am sorry if I have come off rude or disrespectful, I can honestly say I do not mean any of this to sound that way, and I would hope that everyone else could try to do they're best to be respectful as well. Nursing is a gift and well gifts come from someone

Their not they're*

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God doesn't tell people to kill others**

*** Since I know your god, and all the other many gods people worship, are creations of the human mind, I know you are right. Something that doesn't exist can't very well tell anything.

You can't deny that many millions of people have been killed in the name of one god or another (including yours). What I don't know, is in the absence of religion, if people would just find some other justification to slaughter each other. I tend to think so but have no way of knowing.

I hope you are not offended by my comments as that is not my intention.

I don't want to be at the end of the world and have someone ask me why I didn't tell them, or not make it out to be an important truth

*** SO does that mean you would open to being taught the end of life beliefs of other religions? What about your children being taught the "truth" as seen by Hindus or Muslims, or Wikkins or all the other religions out there?

I'm not trying to argue about anything and the bible tells me not to so this is my last post on this thread...Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will. (2 Timothy 2:23-26 ESV)

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
I'm not trying to argue about anything and the bible tells me not to

*** Hmmm, this was a discussion, not an argument.

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