I am Afraid. Please Pray for Me. - page 2

Many of us view the healthcare setting as a place of employment where we we are comfortable. To patients, however, this medical setting is a maze with frightening and uncertain twists and turns, ups... Read More

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    Thank you for this article, it is both informative and reflective.
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    Well, I'm an atheist and where faith is concerned? I am...whatever my patient is.
    I just lie.
    "Are you muslim?"
    "Do you know Jesus?"
    "Yes!", she said with great verve.

    But you tell me that you're scared and ask me to pray for you? I can do that. 12 years of private school and a childhood spent in the church? Come on.
    Fellow atheists and doubters: Crack open a holy book and read with them. It's probably sitting right there on their nightstandf.

    The bible has some of the best comfort scriptures of any holy book. The Psalms... is just plain poetry.

    Yesterday, I had a hospice pt for the first time. Private duty care.
    He was in pain. End Stage dementia and other issues. His wife was the only family member who could calm him.
    She whipped out the bible and before I knew it, I was rattling off prayers/scriptures.
    From the Top 40 (LOL):
    - Hail Mary
    - The Lord's Prayer.
    - The Beatitudes
    - "May the Lord bless you and keep you.
    May the Lord make his face to shine upon thee and be gracious to thee.
    May the Lord lift his countenance upon thee and give you peace."

    I cannot remember the chapter/verse, but I used to love that bible verse.

    She was crying. The daughter was crying. I was crying...and I'm not sure that I'm supposed to do that.
    Suffice it to say, I cannot handle hospice.
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    I think it's also very important to use discretion, however faith, religion, and spirituality are three different animals.

    Even NANDA, bless their hearts, has picked up on the importance of one's "Spiritual Health" in addition to Physical and Mental Health. I think this is a wonderfully appropriate, timely needed, and reminder thread of the importance and necessity of Holistic Nursing Care.

    You Go TnButterfly!!!
    Last edit by BostonTerrierLoverRN on Nov 19, '12 : Reason: iPhone formatting fail
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    I do not believe it is the 'nurse's' responsibility to 'pray' with the patient. It depends on the relationship she/he has with the patient. The hospital might not be fond of nurses praying with patients. Know the policy of the hospital.
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    This is one time I would actually be brazen enough to buck policy and risk termination if the patient requested, I would be on my knees in an instant with or by them, "fond" or not. Thank-God for a Bill of Rights that Supersede the hospital's policy.

    I bet they are not "fond" of being on a National News story either. Censoring a Patient's Rights is a slippery slope. "This just in, Nurse terminated for a patient requested prayer." -would be an honor.

    I choose to be a patient advocate in this important matter. I'm not trying to be divisive or rude- but if I couldn't meet a reasonable demand such as this, I've got pastors that volunteer, inpatient Chaplains, or Volunteer Layman/Deacons (male/female of each).
    Last edit by BostonTerrierLoverRN on Nov 19, '12 : Reason: Format
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    This is a wonderful article. I find that as an atheist, I am prone to forgetting the varying degrees of importance of religion in clients' everyday lives. In all honesty, religion itself is an idea that is very foreign (and nonsensical) to me, so I admit being asked to pray would make me feel uncomfortable inside. However, just like other simple comfort measures, it really aids in client comfort, and isn't that why we're all nurses in the end?

    However, I do agree though that there is a line that can be crossed - though I think that should be at the particular nurse's discretion. I can't think of a situation in which I would feel all right kneeling, for example (plus there's the sanitation issue!), but I would gladly hold hands in a prayer circle with a family, I think. This is a tricky issue, really. :/ Being a new graduate RN, I've never exactly encountered this situation, even in clinicals.
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    I'm fortunate enough to work in a Catholic hospital. I'm not Catholic, but the nuns that visit each patient daily are a great comfort to many of my patients, regardless of their faith. Have I talked about faith with scared patients? Sure. Have I prayed for and with patients at their request? Of course. Would I ever refuse a patient the comfort of a prayer? Never!
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    I couldn't get over your profile picture. I'm a Boston Terrier fan too. They can change your life, as can a good nurse.
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    That reminds me Colimadog, I think therapy pets were an awesome idea! It's always funny to see how they can open up the biggest sourpuss on the floor- and really bring out the "child" in all of us. You can tell the whole ward is in high spirits after a visit. I know that's kind of "off topic," but if you ever have a patient that's withdrawing faster than staff can address, or their resistant to treatment, a 5 minute pet therapy session can make a world of difference.
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    BostonterriorRN, we are not talking about 'Patient's Bill of Rights', we are talking about the nurse's. I have yet to see someone 'lose it all' for the sake of the Lord. In your experience, has a patient asked you to pray?

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