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  1. by   azgirl
    People in my program stated that they got their nursing degree in spite of our instructors.
  2. by   Teshiee
    This is a damn shame. You know if you were in med school you wouldn't be going through all this drama. I really can relate if you want to hear my story please pm me and I will tell you about an instructor that was biased and we literally had to stand up and be heard. :-( Unrealistic expectations they put on nursing students and then when they are in the real world they realize what was all the damn fuss about. I say shame on this profession sometimes. For some of you that are on your high horse unless you have been there you really can't go there. Nikita don't let this mishap deterr pls pm me!
  3. by   sjoe
    "Lawmakers to consider center that would study nursing shortage"

    There is a link to this article on the allnurses home page at the moment. Just what we needeed--more study of the "problem." LOL.
  4. by   brianpribis
    [ Why there is a shortge of nurses. ]

    Man, it has been a few years since school but I remember the terror. In fact I think I also remember having to get a 100 on the med calc test. I think (hope) what you went through is an uncommon occurance. Our school was very hard and 30% or more of the class was gone by midterm. Sometimes the teachers would ask students to reconsider their career field, other times it wasn't a suggestion. But when the teachers knew you had the right stuff, and you were doing all you could to make the grade, the teachers would go the extra mile (or hundred) to get you there. I mean, these ladies would stay after, meet with you around your schedule, even hold special classes for interested students. I know that if it wasn't for the commitment of these people I would have never made it. I was so burned out by the end that they practically carried me across the finish line! There are good schools out there, really.
    b--
  5. by   NMAguiar
    As a current nursing student, I just requested and received another clinical instructor for the reasons -jt stated. I got so sick of hearing this instructor tell myself and other students during clinicals, "We expect you to do this perfectly -- you practiced it in the lab!"

    What student doesn't sense a difference between a dummy and living tissue when they first perform a proceedure? I felt so bad for one young lady giving an injection for the first time as this instructor hovered over her, and the patient, telling her she wasn't "going to pass (the semester) if she didn't get that right."

    The day she yelled at me -- and I'm a 41-year-old male student -- I decided I needed to find someone more professional. But any student out of high school is an adult, and deserves to be treated as such.
  6. by   researchrabbit
    With one exception, I had a WONDERFUL group of nursing professors who went the extra mile for every student that asked for help (the exception was a one-semester substitute; she was not asked back). Thank you, Johnson County Community College.

    We did lose a few students, some who weren't prepared for college level work, some whose personal lives prevented them from being able to do their best, and some who just decided it was too much work.

    Our professors were gentle when they needed to be, professionally stern or tough when required, and I can't tell you how much I appreciated them.

    Schools of nursing are having a hard time getting nurses too -- it doesn't help that nursing professors get paid less than if they worked in a hospital. A good nurse SHOULD be a good teacher -- but that is not the same as a good professor.
  7. by   NMAguiar
    Good points all researchrabbit.

    There is difficulty in attracting community college instructors. They can earn much more with their Master's degree in managment or simply as a staff nurse. There is really only one good reason to embark upon a teaching career: passion for the field.

    In California, there more than 100 community colleges -- far more than all campuses in the state, university and private colleges combined. Their nursing programs enroll about 3,800 students each semester, from which about 73 percent graduate -- down from about 85 percent in the early 1990s. (numbers provided by the California Community College Chancellor's Office)

    Community colleges are both the future of nursing education and the best weapon against the looming nursing shortage crisis. They -- and the students -- deserve quality and compassionate instructors.

    O.K., I'll jump off the soap box now.
  8. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Originally posted by sjoe
    "Lawmakers to consider center that would study nursing shortage"

    There is a link to this article on the allnurses home page at the moment. Just what we needeed--more study of the "problem." LOL.
    Exactly. when do we stop "studying" and start "doing"? Ludicrous.
  9. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Originally posted by NMAguiar
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    Community colleges are both the future of nursing education and the best weapon against the looming nursing shortage crisis. They -- and the students -- deserve quality and compassionate instructors.

    O.K., I'll jump off the soap box now. [/B]
    **sigh** No compassion to be found in the community college from which I graduated....but a 50% attrition rate and 100% pass rate on the boards, so I guess they felt justified? HMMPH. Something's gotta change w/o compromising standards. The whole "eating our young " thing begins in nursing school, as we see.
  10. by   MrsK1223
    I have often wondered what is the deal with nursing instructors. For this to be a caring profession, I've have met more uncaring spiteful nursing instructors. Nursing is a serious profession with little room for mistakes in the real world but school is our training ground. I was lucky a time or two to actually get instructors that made our clinical and classroom experience one where we were expected not to already know everything and that it was ok to make mistakes and that any hands on patient care was supervised so as to not harm the patient. I made it to the last semester next to last clinical with the instructor cut directly out of satan's ass. In a busy crowded medication room with students and other nurses and staff, my instructor was asking me about medications i was preparing for my patient and wanted to know all the physiological effects of each medication off the top of my head and there was about 15 medications. I did the best i could but obviously could not tell her what she wanted. She wouldnt let me look it up and caused me to hold up the electronic med cart. I literally started having a panic attack, i developed painful cramping, i was sweating, I thought i was going to pass out and felt like running out and just leaving but i didn't. I just kept saying I dont know, what do you want me to do. She wouldn't let me look them up. She picked on me and two others the rest of time in that clinical I was sick the rest of the day. I felt like **** the rest of the semester. She said some awful things to me that day that I will never forget and sadly really did a number on my confidence. Later we took the matter up with the dean and found out that there were law suits against this woman and we weren't the first to complain. I was in tears. But nothing has been done about her. If she wanted to make me feel like all the time i spent learning and studying and practicing nursing skills and critical thinking were a waste of time and that i was the most incompetent nursing student in the world she accomplished that. It's taken me two years to and i'm still working on my confidence. It was a lot worse than i stated...my whole clinical group was scared they would be next. It was a very traumatic ordeal. It's instances such as this that makes me wonder about the nursing care we're taught. God help all nursing students.
  11. by   Flora
    I totally agree with _JT,
    Why do we as nurses perpetuate this dog-eat-dog mentality?
    Is it because we are so "catty" and competitive?
    As a female dominated profession, I still cringe when I hear women say, "I would rather work with men".
    After 24 years in nursing I as still astonished at how we treat one another on the job, and in school.
    Where is the support we give mouth service to?
    Who can succeed when there is so little compassion? ...the same compassion we are expected to give to our patients, as we should.
    How can we unite and fight for our rightful place in the heirarchy of the medical model if we continued to wish our sisters and brothers ill, and back stab and criticize one another with so little decency?
  12. by   schoolgirl04
    Getting through my ADN program was harder than boot camp and any drill seargeant I'd ever faced. It was no joke...but those two years prepared me for the real world of dealing with patients, families, doctors and other issues that nurses face. I went back and got my BSN and am in grad school for Midwifery. Remember, a diamond is a piece of coal that made it under the pressure. Hang in there!!
  13. by   -jt
    excellent articles in AJN this month - research data, surveys, charts, interviews - all about the reasons for the nursing shortage - working conditions.

    I cut out a few & am sending them to my CEO.
    Last edit by -jt on Jan 17, '03

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