here is one thing I just wanted to respond to that is bothering me. This is not saying anything bad about any education, BUT I keep noticing that people keep posting how most hospital or ADN's is just about the same as the BSN bc most people take about 3 years to complete it anyways. Well, in my experience MOST people take at least 5 years to complete the BSN if not 6. It is not an easy program, I am sure the ADN is not easy either. But my point is, degree goes upon credit hours and not time spent in school. Also, the petty little things/classes you must take to complete a degree. I didn't say it was fair, but that is the way it goes. I have 190 credits right now, and still have to finish a few more courses for my second degree(bio) even though I have a BSN, I still have to complete a few lower levels classes. That is just the way it goes.
I do think combining more clinicals with education would go a long way. Education is very important, and I feel it should eventually be a standard. I do feel however, regardless of education, people are leaving nursing bc the way nurses are treated plain and simple. I love assessing, I love dressing changes, I love IV's, etc. I HATE cleaning rooms, emptying trash cans, and being a secretary. I didn't have to go to school for that(none of us did) Until nurses put their feet down, and set some sort of guidlines as to our job description people will continue to feel overwhelmed, belittled, and confused. Why should nurses have to keep improving education, procedures, etc, and STILL have to do everything and anything. It does not make sense. It would also be much safer for the patients if you could focus on your nursing abilities and worth instead of being treated like everyones slave.
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Personally, I think all nurses should go through a program that is run with hospital experience as a priority and it should grant a BSN on completion. I think Diploma and ADN students are getting ripped off. When most of them spend 3+ years in school anyways, they should get a bachelor's degree and have all the options that provides. So my vote would be for a BSN program with lots of clinical time.
My BSN program was the same as the Diploma program. The only difference was the Diploma students stopped after the third year, and the BSN students did 2 more semestres. Clinical time was well balanced with class time and I although I was scared when I first graduated, I did ok.