Robert Wood Johnson Univ Hospital Nurses to Strike - page 6

Registered nurses start strike August 24, 2006 at 7am at Robert Wood Johnson Univeristy Hospital in New Brunswick, NJ Nurses reject contract proposal Home News Tribune Online 08/17/06 By DAVID... Read More

  1. by   clcrtrn
    "We are always ready to sit and listen to what the union has to say," said John Patella, the hospital's spokesman. "We've offered them a great deal that keeps them as some of the best-paid nurses in the state and an excellent health plan. We hope they take another look at the great offer we've made them." Home News Tribune Online 09/9/06

    Let's hope there are some meaningful negotiations and offerings from the hopital. If the preceeding quote is an example of how the hospital is going to come to the table it will be business as usual. We've heard the same line from Patella from the begining. The last line doesn't sound as if they are coming to bargain, rather they're coming back with the same offer.
  2. by   ironica01
    these are all lies. Patella always reiterate that RWJ nurses are the highest paid nurses in the area. How would he explain the good benefits the other hospitals offer? Alot of the nurses I know who work in other hospitals don't even have to pay for their health insurance and their family's. How would he explain the base rate of an 18-yr veteran nurse at RWJUH doesn't even get to the $44/hour he's been telling the media an average RN makes? I just wish the media people dont just take his info to mislead the public. I wish they make a comparison from other hospitals what healthcare they offer to their nurses and what the RWJUH RNs really get.
  3. by   RNBarb
    To all my fellow rwjuh nurses:

    I have to say I was more than a little upset today when I heard another nurse say she'd "give this one more week and then go in". I said my piece, of course, but this is something we need to be aware of and we need to make sure that EVERYONE knows there is help available for those in need. There has been a committee formed, info passed out, and many avenues to pursue. If we give in now we will be lost forever. All of the hard work, all the ground we have gained, and all the support we have generated will have been in vain. Of course the hospital is still going to try to jerk us around...they're doing what they think they need to do, just as we are doing what we KNOW we must do. STAY STRONG! BE UNITED! We can and will come out of this with a fair contract! If you have questions, ASK someone in the know (i.e. union leaders), and don't believe each and every piece of gossip that comes down the line! We've "come a long way, baby". Don't cave in now! Standing proud and staying strong on the line! See you out there! Don't forget to try to have aan American flag when you are picketing on 9/11. That's an occasion that shouldn't be ignored.
  4. by   RNBarb
  5. by   ironica01
    Quote from RNBarb
    To all my fellow rwjuh nurses:

    I have to say I was more than a little upset today when I heard another nurse say she'd "give this one more week and then go in". I said my piece, of course, but this is something we need to be aware of and we need to make sure that EVERYONE knows there is help available for those in need. There has been a committee formed, info passed out, and many avenues to pursue. If we give in now we will be lost forever. All of the hard work, all the ground we have gained, and all the support we have generated will have been in vain. Of course the hospital is still going to try to jerk us around...they're doing what they think they need to do, just as we are doing what we KNOW we must do. STAY STRONG! BE UNITED! We can and will come out of this with a fair contract! If you have questions, ASK someone in the know (i.e. union leaders), and don't believe each and every piece of gossip that comes down the line! We've "come a long way, baby". Don't cave in now! Standing proud and staying strong on the line! See you out there! Don't forget to try to have aan American flag when you are picketing on 9/11. That's an occasion that shouldn't be ignored.
    we've gone a long way, why give up now? we are doing this for our family and chidren. Please "dont cross the picket Line", everything we've done will just go into waste... the hospital administration will be even prouder to ignore us, our demands... we are not coward, we'll fight together till the end
  6. by   fedupnurse
    Sound slike that administrator was counting in non bedside nurses in those salary numbers!!! If you add in mgmt and CRNA's the average hourly rate would be 40 something an hour or more. Too bad there aren't some nurse reporter's out there to pepper them with questions like $44.00 per hour is an average salary for your staff nurses??? Does that include any mgmt or CRNA's? I like when they count non bedside nurses (and we have a ton of them in my place) and say we have 1200 nurses. Less than half that are bedside but no need to truly inform the public.
    Then you must also remember the penny wise pound foolish nature of administrations thinking. If we had gone to acceptable ratios years ago we wouldn't be in this shortage now. Nurses would have been able to stay at the bedside because their working conditions would have been tolerable. They'd rather spend millions training new nurses and paying scab agencies than do the right thing in the first place. After you deduct out what you are paying in healthcare, it greatly diminishes your hourly rate...between paying in for the actual coverage and all the out of pocket expenses if you God forbid have to go out of network!
  7. by   clcrtrn
    Quote from fedupnurse
    sound slike that administrator was counting in non bedside nurses in those salary numbers!!! if you add in mgmt and crna's the average hourly rate would be 40 something an hour or more. too bad there aren't some nurse reporter's out there to pepper them with questions like $44.00 per hour is an average salary for your staff nurses??? does that include any mgmt or crna's? i like when they count non bedside nurses (and we have a ton of them in my place) and say we have 1200 nurses. less than half that are bedside but no need to truly inform the public.
    then you must also remember the penny wise pound foolish nature of administrations thinking. if we had gone to acceptable ratios years ago we wouldn't be in this shortage now. nurses would have been able to stay at the bedside because their working conditions would have been tolerable. they'd rather spend millions training new nurses and paying scab agencies than do the right thing in the first place. after you deduct out what you are paying in healthcare, it greatly diminishes your hourly rate...between paying in for the actual coverage and all the out of pocket expenses if you god forbid have to go out of network!
    yes, fedup, you got it! the figures were inflated and reported by the hospital to smokescreen the issue of our wanting a better healthcare package. this article acurately adresses the salary issue as well as the amount of money they are paying the scabs:

    http://www.thnt.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...73256369895576
  8. by   ZASHAGALKA
    The strike is about the right to use other facilities for healthcare? Sheesh. What a silly reason to strike. I wouldn't talk to the union about that, either.

    Sure, you can make unreasonable demands and then complain when the other side won't even hear them, due to their unreasonableness, but that does not make you an innocent party.

    I've NEVER seen a non-VA hospital, union or otherwise, that didn't try to recoup some of the cost of providing healthcare by tailoring its health plans to be the provider of such care, to the largest extent possible. To expect otherwise is simply unreasonable.

    If that is the sticking point, then you are asking for multi-million dollar solutions to dollar-ante concerns. I can think of a ton of other uses to demand hospitals spend millions of dollars that would be worth taking a stand.

    If the issue is WHERE to get services and not HOW MUCH service, then I think I'd bargain for more paycheck, not to demand that my employer waste resources by paying full price for services that it can provide on site.

    When I had my inguinal hernia repair, I used my hospital and that was a little uncomfortable. But sheesh. I got it done and it cost me less than a grand out of pocket - and that was money paid to the doctors. I wouldn't even of had the NERVE to ask my hospital to pay its competitors full price for such a thing. Nor would I have wanted them to waste such funds when I could think of several better uses for them.

    If you believe the TYPE of coverages are unfair, why don't you negotiate THAT instead of the untenable demand for care anywhere? They are not likely to cave on that anytime soon. And, in the meantime, it is YOU risking the future bargaining power of your union by hanging a strike on such an unreasonable demand.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Last edit by ZASHAGALKA on Sep 9, '06
  9. by   clcrtrn
    There is a whole lot more to the issue than what you have simplified it to ZASHAGALKA. If you read all the posts and even check out our union website you'll get the entirety of the situation rather than call our valid reasons silly.
  10. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from clcrtrn
    There is a whole lot more to the issue than what you have simplified it to ZASHAGALKA. If you read all the posts and even check out our union website you'll get the entirety of the situation rather than call our valid reasons silly.
    That one reason isn't valid. And it is probably the most cost prohibitive demand that you are making. Try compromising on THAT in order to get more from the 'entirety of the situation'.

    For the type of money involved in that ONE demand, you'd have a better and cheaper chance to negotiate for a five buck an hour pay raise. Or for a real comprehensive health care plan. Or, both.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Last edit by ZASHAGALKA on Sep 9, '06
  11. by   clcrtrn
    Again....read all posts; I've tried to update with the facts of the matter on a regular basis. Check the website. Part of the reason is the hospital's refusal to talk, to bargain in good faith.

    great Wilfred Owen quote by the way!
  12. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from clcrtrn
    Again....read all posts; I've tried to update with the facts of the matter on a regular basis. Check the website. Part of the reason is the hospital's refusal to talk, to bargain in good faith.
    That one unreasonable demand is probably why.

    Scrap that and you might just get them to the table to talk about reasonable demands.

    I don't see that demand as 'bargaining in good faith'. I can see WHY they are so intractable on that point.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Last edit by ZASHAGALKA on Sep 9, '06
  13. by   clcrtrn
    Again, there is more to the issue than the choice of hospital. An increasing number of doctors at RWJ are dropping their acceptance of the current plans due to difficulties in receiving or decreases in reimbursements. Nurses have been denied coverage for proceedures because there are no doctors within the RWJ inner circle to perform them. The union has presented an alternative package that would save the hospital $1.5 million over the life of the contract.

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