Controversial Michael Moore Flick 'Sicko' Will Compare U.S. Health Care with Cuba's - page 32

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  1. by   teeituptom
    Quote from natania
    I'm not sure it was mentioned in all these pages, but although the World Health Organization ranked the U.S. 37th for overall health care systems, it placed number ONE for patient satisfaction.

    Yes, we have problems, but clearly we are doing something right, too.
    According to Press gainey score right.
  2. by   Tweety
    Quote from teeituptom
    There are at least 2 systems in place. But there should not be a difference in the outcomes of care. That is illegal, immoral, and unfair.
    This is what causes there to be a drive renewed for Universal Health Care.
    I completely agree with you here.

    (Write this day down. I actually agree with and like something you said!!!! OMG The sky is falling. LOL)
  3. by   vashtee
    Quote from teeituptom
    According to Press gainey score right.
    Actually, I'm not sure. I kind of doubt it though, because I think Press Gainey is a national system, rather than international, right? Anyway, I read in a World Heath Organization report.
  4. by   HM2VikingRN
    France's system is further prized for its high level of choice and responsiveness -- attributes that led the World Health Organization to rank it the finest in the world (America's system came in at No. 37, between Costa Rica and Slovenia). The French can see any doctor or specialist they want, at any time they want, as many times as they want, no referrals or permissions needed.
    http://prospect.org/cs/articles?arti...lth_of_nations
    I think true provider choice would do wonders for really making us the best in the world for satisfaction. Without a link to the WHO study it is difficult to evaluate this assertion about patient satisfaction.
  5. by   HM2VikingRN
    Quote from fronkey bean
    i thought we had already decided that there is access to healthcare for everyone in the us - not equal access at times but access none the less.
    the point i was making was:

    its not that progressives are trying to achieve absolute equality of results for everyone rather the more accurate goal of progressivism is to reduce barriers to achievement (whether it is educational, health etc.) so that all people in society have the opportunity to achieve to the extent of their individual ability and drive.
    see also
    <h3>the u.s. health care system performs poorly compared with other countries

    • the commonwealth fund commission on a high performance health system's national scorecard on u.s. health system performance found that out of a possible 100 points based on benchmarks that have been achieved within the u.s. or other countries, the u.s. received a score of 66, or one-third below benchmark levels of performance. the u.s. scored particularly poorly on indicators of efficiency, with wide variation in cost and quality across the country and with much higher spending levels than other countries.
    • the u.s. ranks 15th out of 19 countries on mortality from conditions "amenable to health care"—that is, deaths that could have been prevented with timely and effective care. the u.s. ranks last on infant mortality.
    • universal participation is essential for dramatic improvement in health care outcomes as well as overall performance of the u.s. health system.
    • not having stable, adequate coverage limits access to care. out of five industrialized countries studied, the u.s. had the highest share of adults reporting that they had cost-related problems accessing needed health care.
    ~</h3>
    http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publ...?doc_id=506778


    Last edit by HM2VikingRN on Jul 2, '07
  6. by   pickledpepperRN
    :hatparty:Tom and Tweety :roll

    By Donna Smith, Proud American appearing in Michael Moore's SiCKO

    July 1, 2007

    http://www.calnurses.org/media-cente...982547&print=t
  7. by   Tweety
    Quote from spacenurse
    :hatparty:Tom and Tweety :roll
    Don't get used to it. It was a fluke.
  8. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from Tweety
    Don't get used to it. It was a fluke.
    Now, if y'all would all just agree with me, we could call it a thread. . .

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  9. by   PrivateDuty
    I just think it's great he has so many people talking about a topic that certainly needs addressed
  10. by   pickledpepperRN
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    Now, if y'all would all just agree with me, we could call it a thread. . .

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    fluke

    thread
  11. by   DarrenWright
    Quote from teeituptom
    Actually Clinton had built up a large Surplus. Which Bushie blew and then some.
    You are confusing a tax surplus (which is the unethical hoarding of taxpayer money), with the national debt (which also grew under Clinton).
  12. by   Tweety
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    Now, if y'all would all just agree with me, we could call it a thread. . .

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  13. by   kenny b
    Quote from DarrenWright
    You are confusing a tax surplus (which is the unethical hoarding of taxpayer money), with the national debt (which also grew under Clinton).
    Amen to that! I don't know how that misconception is perpetuated (actually I do - unfortunately).

    The "surplus" came from higher taxes (which ultimately, eventually lower revenue), and foolish cuts in defense spending.

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