Concealed Carry...as a nurse? - page 11

by mcknis

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With the current news over gun control and gun rights legislation being pushed through Congress as a result of the tragedies of Aurora, CO, Newtown, CT and the others like them, the thought of concealed carry among healthcare... Read More


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    I do not carry a weapon. I have no problem with people who choose to doing so. I do believe they should be criminally and civilly liable for any crime that is committed with a weapon they own. The only times in my life I have been threatened by weapons it was by off duty law enforcement who thought they had been taken advantage of. I know unfortunately that many people do not store their weapons securely including law enforcemt which I have witnessed myself. I have spent great periods of my life working in the inner city and other poor areas. When I was younger collecting money and later on performing physical exams. People have had words with me and I chose to move on. I have had attempted robberies and chose not to surrender. I use common sense and when I see trouble brewing I seek safe harbor. Not every person knows their limits or has a feel for situations so I dont recoment anyone necessarily live their life like I have. But I do choose not to live in fear.
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    Billybob, by going unarmed you are exercising your right to make your own decission on this issue, which is, I am confident, the best choice for you. I also ageee with you that the best defensive weapons are an alert attitude and good sence. A martial arts instructor once suggested that the most powerful fighting system in the world is useing one's intellegence to make sure that, if a fight starts, you are not thrre.
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    Quote from billyboblewis
    I do not carry a weapon. I have no problem with people who choose to doing so. I do believe they should be criminally and civilly liable for any crime that is committed with a weapon they own. The only times in my life I have been threatened by weapons it was by off duty law enforcement who thought they had been taken advantage of. I know unfortunately that many people do not store their weapons securely including law enforcemt which I have witnessed myself. I have spent great periods of my life working in the inner city and other poor areas. When I was younger collecting money and later on performing physical exams. People have had words with me and I chose to move on. I have had attempted robberies and chose not to surrender. I use common sense and when I see trouble brewing I seek safe harbor. Not every person knows their limits or has a feel for situations so I dont recoment anyone necessarily live their life like I have. But I do choose not to live in fear.
    ^ In total agreement billybob...We do have an ultimate choice...I choose not to live in fear, just remain assertive, and a great heap of common sense.
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    The way the poll is worded, it is asking if the license is always on me, so I said yes, but no I don't carry a weapon 24/7
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    Thank you all for your comments on the issue at hand. It appears like many have a strong stance in one direction or another. My personal opinion is that you should have a right to defend yourself with any and all means necessary. If you come into my home at night expecting to inflict harm on me or my family, expect a fight. I have the same thought at work, if you come to inflict harm on me or another who is there, expect a fight. I do not have a CCW/CCL but am proficient with firearms. My employer is having discussions on violence against healthcare workers at this time, and although nothing is being done to help curb violence, their statements reflect many of what has been said here. Statements such as "The police are only minutes away", "How could you think of causing harm to a patient", "We took an oath to do good", and "It is not our job" have all been mentioned here, but my opinion is...why wait those few minutes for someone else to do something (whether a firearm is involved or not) when you are already there is obscene. And, regarding law enforcement, why not train to the same level and obtain peace officer certification so you can be the one that is ready?

    As a male nurse in an Emergency Department, I can not think of how many times others have yelled out for me to come in to "make a presence" because of fear. I have nothing more than anyone else to do anything with, and please do not get me started on the idea of CPI. What a crock! When law enforcement are minutes away, so much can happen in that time frame. Ever try doing chest compressions for 2 long and laborious minutes? I am sure the request for someone to take over was soon after! Same goes for violence against us in the healthcare sector. I did take an oath to do good and do no harm, very true, but I did not take an oath that says I will sit back when someone is dying and I am too tired to do chest compressions, so why are we expected to lie down when our safety is in jeopardy. Having the right tools to do the job is important. Would an ICU nurse abandon her stethoscope because she may not need it that day? Of course not.

    The battle between good and evil will ensue for years to come, but this nation fought a long hard battle and left our mother country because of rights being abolished. Many now are willing to throw the towel in because of a utopia that may be down the road. That utopia is not going to happen, but the pilgrims knew that, and brought along appropriate tools and knowledge to defend their new found land.

    Mental health issues need better addressing and more treatment needs to be available for those who have been affected by various crimes. Criminals will still and always will be criminals. Cain killed his brother Abel without a gun and Jesus Christ was killed without one, too. There will always be crime, and guns are not the issue. Are they part of the issue? Maybe. They are as much a part of the issue as pencils are too poor writers, reading glasses are to poor readers, cars to drunk drivers, hammers to poor carpenters, and spoons to poor diet choices.

    Once again, it is a matter of perspective. Crime will continue. Mental Health disorders will continue to remain. The real solution...for individuals to look deep inside themselves and seek personal revival from Jesus Christ. Freedom in Christ is all we need, but even Christ had 12 disciples (body guards) who were with him at all times.
    Last edit by mcknis on Feb 2, '13 : Reason: edit
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    Quote from pa715
    Alabama is a very racist crazy state so I am not surprised that this is tolerated there.
    Well that's extremely relevant to this conversation. :eyeroll
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    Quote from mcknis
    The real solution...for individuals to look deep inside themselves and seek personal revival from Jesus Christ. Freedom in Christ is all we need, but even Christ had 12 disciples (body guards) who were with him at all times.
    I own a firearm (and sometimes carry) and am not a Christian. I have yet to feel the impulse to harm another human being who has made no threats against me. This is not a religious issue whatsoever. Let's agree to not discuss this further, since it seems like every thread that gets too deep into religion gets closed (probably somewhat in part due to me). Let's keep this about our natural right to defend ourselves, about which I vehemently agree with you.
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    Right now I'm a pre-nursing student, but once I start up in nursing school and I'm in clinicals, I have put some serious thought into getting a permit to keep it in the car. Call me over-cautious, but while wearing scrubs for some reason I feel like a target- on top of just being a young female. Getting out late and you're not carpooling, going to your car can be really scary!
    It's something worth considering, to me. I wouldn't carry in the hospital though, too dangerous to me.
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    Quote from mcknis
    Freedom in Christ is all we need, but even Christ had 12 disciples (body guards) who were with him at all times.
    Indeed!

    I also recall that one of those "bodyguards" conspired against him and Christ asked his disciple to lay aside his weapon when he was captured.
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    They shoot people all the time around where I work. So I have been considering conceal carry.. but pretty sure my conservative organization would say no...that makes me wonder..IF they refuse to provide proper security AND you are not allowed to carry a gun...are they liable??thoughts??Besides what if you shared a locker with someone..that would be dangerous IMHO


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