Anyone ever get their license back after revocation? - page 9
OK, hope I'm doing this right. Now that I have some clean time, I am considering getting my nursing license back. I have no idea how to go about this. I "failed" IPN (FL) in 2002, :dance:-that was... Read More
Apr 16, '11You bet, it is a long tough road but well worth it if you do have that burning desire like I did to not give up. Sure, there will be plenty of hoops to jump through and your patience will be tested. I hit my bottom in 2003, did a voluntary surrender and did exactly what my BON told me to do...get recovery, treatment, ect... and re-apply in 5 years. I did exactly that. 28 day treatment, 12 step meetings, sponsorship, service work. changed my playmates and playgrounds. Started a little landscaping business (which grew immensely and became very profitable) - but i never lost sight of my desire to be a nurse. 5 years later, the day came to request reinstatement, 2008 - UG..talk about hoops..U/A's twice a month for two years, relapse prevention classes, addictionologist reviews, LPN refresher class and practicum, 6 month narcotics restriction, On-site RN supervision...I do have my LPN license back now, 2011, It still is on probation and I am in my last year of meeting all the requirments that my consent agreement requires. I am employed now as an LPN, not my dream job, but thats okay for now. I go to work everyday with a good attitude and do the best I can. I hope my scenario does not keep you from moving foward with your situation. It is a struggle at best! But I am proof that a nurse in the throes of addiction who had crashed and burned can rise up and get that hopeful second chance. Its there for you too! My best advice for you now is to focus on your recovery and consider the next 5 years an investment in becoming the best person that you are, and everything else that you truly desire in life will follow.Last edit by gr8fulnrs on Apr 16, '11 : Reason: gramatical error
May 1, '11Can Anyone let me know in detail what the oig application to remove yourself from the exclusion list includes?
I have gleened from here that old employers will be contacted and you need a clean license from your state. What else is needed? I will apply in a few weeks. Also what info should I send in with my application that would help me?
May 2, '11From my experience, the application packet that I recieved from them (OIG) was self-explanitory. It was relatively simple. None of my previous employers were contacted and as far as a "clean" license...my license was in probationary status when I applied to be removed from the list. Only send in infomation that is requested of you. When I contacted the person who I was in correspondance with at the OIG,on the telephone, she was very helpful and the process of being removed from this exclusion list was alot easier than I thought. I hope this helps.
May 3, '11Quote from gr8fulnrsRight, I just wanted to say, I thought going through this would be a nightmare....I did this in 8/2009...I sent away for the application packet and followed to a T. THe attorney at the OIG in wash DC was wonderful and I spoke to her every week. From start to finish it took about 6 weeks....maybe less...that was the easiest thing to accomplish....so good luck, just follow instructions.From my experience, the application packet that I recieved from them (OIG) was self-explanitory. It was relatively simple. None of my previous employers were contacted and as far as a "clean" license...my license was in probationary status when I applied to be removed from the list. Only send in infomation that is requested of you. When I contacted the person who I was in correspondance with at the OIG,on the telephone, she was very helpful and the process of being removed from this exclusion list was alot easier than I thought. I hope this helps.
May 4, '11Question for SWS RN. Apparently I cannot PM until I've had 14 posts...hmm.
Anyway, did you apply to be removed from the OIG exclusion list prior to your exclusion end date? It is my understanding that there are mandatory and permissive exclusions based on what the extent of the issue was. And the times range anywhere from 2-10 years, or until you are reinstated with your license. I have a permissive exclusion for 2 years, I was placed on it based on erroneous information. I never lost my nursing license. The exlusion paperwork will not be sent to me since it is too early (per the website) to come off the list. I appreciate you sharing your experience in previous posts relating to OIG and how you were able to be removed from the list. Any more info would be great!! Thanks.
Sep 22, '11I am new to this so please bear with me. I have been in the medical field for 25 years. 12 years as a cna,9 years before going to nursing school in 98. i have been an lpn for 13 years. my mother passed away suddenly at the age of 51 in 2005,she was my best friend in the world and i lost that. i dealt with her death,or so i tought, in 2007 i was in rn school,working 2 12 hrs jobs 6 days a week,5 children at home,one of which was a newborn,well 3 months old. I was working at the heart hospital and one night i gave a patient her morphine and i have given that drug several times to many patients, this patient stated,"ahh,i fell so much better,that takes all my pain away and makes me forget all that has happened". For some off the wall reason,i wantedto feel that same way,that would take all my pain away,from everything. i have never done any drugs before this. I was hooked and for 17 days i diverted morphine. it had the adverse reaction for me,it was like speed. i was awake and could go on the schedule i was on. i was never asked about this at my job. i moved to oklahoma for 2 months and moved back home. When i went to renew my license,which only took 3 to 4 days to get back,i didn't hera anything from the board and finally received a letter stating that i was being investigated for diversion. to make a long story short,it started out to be 6 month key restriction, no one would hire me and i had to take care of my family. so i didn't tell the employer about knap. i was caught and my license suspended for 6 months, did that,got my license back,continued in the program with ua's going to na and doing my recovery. after 20 months of being in the program,successfully, i forgot to call and just so happens it was a testing day so therefore i didn't test and that was noncompliant with the board so they suspended me for a year during this year i showed positive, this was due to my niece,she was upset with me because i told her that she needed help with her addiction and i was here to help her and we could do this together.she knew what was going on with the board and my nursing and things like that. she put percocet in my coffee and the next day i had to test and it showed positive,so therefore the board has revoked my license. this just happened in july of 2011. i am still continuing my na meetings and doing my recovery but now i have no license and basically starting over. i am dealing with my niece as well but that is another topic. i live in kansas and they are a tough borad. has anyone dealt with KSBON or is there a lenght of time i should wait to ask to be reinstated, how do i go on with this process. please advise....
Sep 24, '11wow. first of all, let me give you a great big hug! I can relate to what your are saying in a lot of ways. the 6 month narc restriction is a doozey, i went through that too. and i get that this basically means is you have no more livelyhood to support yourself, because who wants to hire a nurse that cant pass meds. I ended up taking a job that didnt have controlled substances (school nurse) and took a huge cut in pay. I never had considered not being honest about my nursing license probation to many prospective employers, because by the time I started looking for work I had enough 12 step work in me to become entirley honest and just try to do the next right thing. I also know that Boards of Nursing are tough, i'm not sure if one is tougher that any other. I have Az. and I think they are tough! Just keep in mind they are there to protect the public, thats what helped me! I had huge resentment towards my Board of Nursing and actually did some step work around it, now I'm alot more clear and humble in this process. I'm getting ready to step down to "on-site" supervison from an RN, and I do have my key privilages back, so there is hope for you too. I've been on probation for 5 years now, and I am starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Just keep going to meetings, turn stuff over to your HP and try to do the next right thing-you will know! God Bless.
Sep 24, '11Hi Luckylpn,
I feel you pain and trouble. all I can say is trying to quiet yourself a little bit and continue with your program. This is one of the sure option that can help you get back to the profession. Keep going! you can do this.
Sep 24, '11Quote from SWS RNPlease note:QUOTE:
You can get off this list without getting your license back, it takes a lot of work and a good lawyer but it can be done. I hope that one day someone who "matters" will see the inclusion of sick people on this list as inherently wrong but until that day, get in recovery, decide what path you want to take and contact an attorney who has dealt with this before.
I agree with a lot of what you said about the OIG list and the ramifications. I found out I was on it last year about 7 years after the incident happened. I WAS NOT NOTIFIED IN ADVANCE-I found out the hard way....anyway, I was able to have my name removed from the list without legal intervention. In fact, I did it by myself. I contacted the lead attorney at the att generals office in Washington, DC. I asked what could be done. They sent me a packet with information on how to go about it.
I had several friends, business associates and former supervisors write a short letter on my behalf. Basically stating that I would never defraud the Medicare system, good moral character, etc.
THey really are more interested in fradulent practices than drug/alcohol addiction...in fact, that was not an issue at all.
I called the lead attorney weekly, she was most helpful and understanding.
THe entire process took from May 30 until August 1, about 2 months.
It felt great when it was over, and I was glad I advocated for myself. I recieved an official letter stating my name was removed and checked the next month it was published and it was.
Good luck, it can be done....I DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is great story, SWS! I, too, am in the position of needing to get off this list. I have a surrendered licence from all the way back in 2001. After I surrendered, I immediately began working in the medical device industry as clionical trainer of medical equipment - a well-paying career that still allows me to use my brain and clinical education that doen't require a license. Truth be told, I'm quite good at what I do and love it....MUCH more than I enjoyed working as a clinician, in fact. I just assumed this is what I would make a long-term carrer out of, so after I surrended my license, I simply fell off my probationary program. As everyone here probably is aware, it is SOOOO financially punitive having to cover the costs of weekly tox screens and therapy out of pocket.
Well finally, the List of Excluded Individuals and Entities (LEIE) has caught up with me. I only vaguely remember receiving the origial letter from the OIG ten years ago and I wasn't quite sure what it meant at the time. Now all of the hospitals that I work in are cross-referencing the LEIE monthly and my enjoyable career has gone down the tubes. I've been clean/sober for eleven years.....my life now is simply not representative of what happened all those years ago. I changed the people, places and things in my life that were the main contributors of my addiction, and I have no demons anymore....plain and simple. I NEED TO GET OFF THIS LIST!!!
Sorry....I envisioned making the above info more succinct. What I'm looking for is to understand in more detail exactly how you got this off the ground with the DOJ Attorney General's Office? What do you mean by Lead Attorney?? is the top attorney who handles lawsuits dealing with the OIG?? Basically, I want to start this process of appealing to the OIG, and I'd love more specifics about how to go about starting it.
Any help you can offer would be incredibly appreciated.
Sep 24, '11A quick question....thed OIG FAQ states that if you apply for reinstaement and get denied, you can't reapply for another year. I am assuming that this would've applied to you as well.....yes??
Sep 24, '11WOW....after quoting you twice, I just CAREFULLY reread your post and I need a quick clarification.....did you accomplish this WITHOUT having had your license reinstated or did it occur after your license was reinstated??
Apr 4, '12I am posting this as a cautionary tale. I was on this blog a year ago while filing the paperwork to remove my name from the OIG exclusion list. Just so you know it took me an entire ten(10) weeks to receive a positive answer and most of the form was not applicable. Also, READ the entire instructions included carefully before rushing to complete the form.
I disclosed my entire history to my employer which you should do.
I currently have a great job and everything was wonderful until recently when an insurance provider contacted my employer to verify that I was the same person who was on the exclusion list and wanted an explanation. There is no explanation. I was on the exclusion list and now I am not. I believe the insurance provider is working with outdated infomation. My employer was great, is forwarding the letter from OIG, and cannot believe this situation because they have checked and I am not on the list.
The moral of this is to have ready the letter which you receive from the OIG stating that you are off the exclusion list handy if not already in your personnel file. Do not lose the letterremoving you from the OIG exclusion list, make multiple copies and place in many places.
Apr 26, '12Hi All!!
What a fantastic site. I stumbled upon you doing a google search.
I am not working as an RN after they filed an accusation against me. It's a pretty good one and I did the deed (over medicated with ativan and drove the car into a ditch. Pled guilty to reckless drving). Now I have responded to their request for a administrative hearing, which is the first week of August 2012, briefly spoken with a lawyer.
Can I negotiate a surrender of my license myself? any pitfalls to watch out for? This is is California.