Nevada board of nursing qualifications for licensure

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Hi,

i am an immigrant (nevada) but currently studying in the philippines taking up nursing. Checked the nevada state of board nursing and it seems like they did some changes. Upon browsing their pdf file (licensure for lpn/rn) i noticed this...

Qualifications for nevada licensure:

1. You must be a graduate of an approved school - does this only apply on schools in nevada?

please enlighten me. Thank you so much.

Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.
Does this means they could also deny you? and if yes is there any other way I could be approved? thank you so much for your input[/quote']

Yes they can deny you and some Filipino nursing graduates were denied as their education did not meet the standards of the NV BoN. The best choice is to pursue your nursing education in the country where you wish to live & practice.

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
I actually saw in the nevada state of board of nursing thay cgfns - ces is also required. Is that some kind of test that i need to pass or is it an evaluation where one could be either denied or approved from applying for nclex? Thank a lot for your input.
You will find many answers here.....https://allnurses.com/nurse-registration/how-applying-cgfns-705920.html
Yes they can deny you and some Filipino nursing graduates were denied as their education did not meet the standards of the NV BoN. The best choice is to pursue your nursing education in the country where you wish to live & practice.

If you get denied there's no way you can get any approval? Say study in the US the courses or subjects that were lacking? Is that possible?

You will find many answers here.....https://allnurses.com/nurse-registration/how-applying-cgfns-705920.html

Hi thank you for the link!

Does this means they could also deny you? and if yes, is there any other way I could be approved? thank you so much for your input

Yes, there are other posters that were not only denied due to the concurrency but also due to lacking certain courses. I'm not sure the new PH curriculum has fully addressed these problems, it's been said that they have "may" it under control, but in the year 2016.

Yes, the deficient courses can be made up. I don't know about NV, but in CA, those courses are extremely hard to find and once found, they are very competitive to get enrolled, some reporting 2-3-4 years on a waiting list. Some schools only can take in 12-30 students and within those accepted, it's like 1-2 per country from Russia, UK, India, Phillipines, some Latin American countries. In CA alone, there's over 4,000 PH students or PH nurses denied the licensure and with the very limited enrollment, it might be quicker and better to re-take the nursing program again but in the States. I mean to be a doctor takes about the same 8 years or so, but then you're still a nurse at the end.

Another factor and probably the main goal is to find that first nursing job.

But as an international grad, by the time, you pass thru all the hoops of getting your courses evaluated, having your English proficiency tested (doesn't matter even if you were a US citizen, but it's because the degree is from out of the country).

Assume that you pass all the requirements, which can take up to 7-9 months or longer and finally get your ATT, you're almost out of time to take the NCLEX-RN so that you can apply as a "new grad".

With the low NCLEX passing rate from the Phils, which is about 35% or less vs the US first-time passing rate of over 80%. So assume you do pass on the first try, in order to be considered as a "new grad", you must apply within the first year of your graduation date, NOT the month/year you pass the NCLEX.

Assume you're one of the first lucky person to get thru this, the current hiring practices and high priorities are going to the local residents and any other out of state US citizen or to thouse who did their clinicals in their hospitals, still not a guarantee for the US or NV grads, but at least they may get an interview.

This article attached sums up the current situation if you plan to get your BSN from out of the country, you can substitute CA for NV: https://allnurses.com/international-nursing/end-phillipine-nursing-885162.html

Please read the comments posted by others in the above link.

While it may be just as hard to get enrolled in a nursing program in the States, what's the pay-off by going overseas? Spend a few years over there, come back here, assume you don't need to spend another year or two trying to take deficient courses, assume you can pass the NCLEX in the first attempt and spend another year or two trying to get the first job as a "old new grad" with no clinical experience.

Hi, thank you so much for being honest with your reply. I can see that it's getting harder and harder for ph nurses as years passes by. Before i went back here in the philippines. I also tried my luck in applying schools there in nv. But there were only a few available and only limited slots were open. They only choose the top students who got the highest scores in the entrance exam and not to mention the high tuition fee just to get in the program. In our city, there's only 2 nursing schools. Before i left the us i knew what was going on with ph nurses having hard time to sit for nclex. But here i am still willing to try and hoping for the best.

i just have a quick question.. What do you mean or whats gonna happen in 2016? I didnt quite understand this paragraph.

Yes, there are other posters that were not only denied due to the concurrency but also due to lacking certain courses. I'm not sure the new PH curriculum has fully addressed these problems, it's been said that they have "may" it under control, but in the year 2016.

Thank you for helping out. I read also the link that you provided. It's the sad reality.

Hi, thank you so much for being honest with your reply. I can see that it's getting harder and harder for ph nurses as years passes by. Before i went back here in the philippines. I also tried my luck in applying schools there in nv. But there were only a few available and only limited slots were open. They only choose the top students who got the highest scores in the entrance exam and not to mention the high tuition fee just to get in the program. In our city, there's only 2 nursing schools. Before i left the us i knew what was going on with ph nurses having hard time to sit for nclex. But here i am still willing to try and hoping for the best.

i just have a quick question.. What do you mean or whats gonna happen in 2016? I didnt quite understand this paragraph.

Yes, there are other posters that were not only denied due to the concurrency but also due to lacking certain courses. I'm not sure the new PH curriculum has fully addressed these problems, it's been said that they have "may" it under control, but in the year 2016.

Thank you for helping out. I read also the link that you provided. It's the sad reality.

In order to clear out the current students of today and to comply with the CA BRN requirements, if the CHED today had to tell all the current enrolled PH students..."ok, guys, we're not going to let you take any more delivery or cord dressing or whatever clinicals, as we need to make room for the previously graduated students and nurses so that they can do this now for the students needing to "complete this or whatever" so that they will meet the CA (or other states) concurrency rules. So kindly give up YOUR spots that you've been waiting for the last 2-3 years, please kindly move back to the end of the line and let your previous grads move in front of you."

So that's why there's been talks so that they can flush out the current enrolled students and make fresh but to do so means it might happen in the year 2016. All rumors, but the CHED, PRC and PNA all did meet with the CA BRN last year to discuss how to resolve this, I'm not sure they will comply with the CA BRN rules, as they have tried (CHED) since 2011 and still PH students are not meeting the requirements.

I still don't know how the CHED will accomplish this as they are working now on get some "approved schools" in the Phils to make things right for the wronged students.

Yes, there will be those that somehow gets thru (like a handful) and are the exception and not the rule.

Like this other article mentions from the BBC almost two years ago, there's still no demand for PH nurses in the States like years passed and still true today:

https://allnurses.com/nurse-registration/us-labor-market-779683.html

Thy say till 2020, but seriously with the US educating more and more local nurses per year, I think add another 10 years, maybe.

In order to clear out the current students of today and to comply with the CA BRN requirements, if the CHED today had to tell all the current enrolled PH students..."ok, guys, we're not going to let you take any more delivery or cord dressing or whatever clinicals, as we need to make room for the previously graduated students and nurses so that they can do this now for the students needing to "complete this or whatever" so that they will meet the CA (or other states) concurrency rules. So kindly give up YOUR spots that you've been waiting for the last 2-3 years, please kindly move back to the end of the line and let your previous grads move in front of you."

So that's why there's been talks so that they can flush out the current enrolled students and make fresh but to do so means it might happen in the year 2016. All rumors, but the CHED, PRC and PNA all did meet with the CA BRN last year to discuss how to resolve this, I'm not sure they will comply with the CA BRN rules, as they have tried (CHED) since 2011 and still PH students are not meeting the requirements.

I still don't know how the CHED will accomplish this as they are working now on get some "approved schools" in the Phils to make things right for the wronged students.

Yes, there will be those that somehow gets thru (like a handful) and are the exception and not the rule.

Like this other article mentions from the BBC almost two years ago, there's still no demand for PH nurses in the States like years passed and still true today:

https://allnurses.com/nurse-registration/us-labor-market-779683.html

Thy say till 2020, but seriously with the US educating more and more local nurses per year, I think add another 10 years, maybe.

i really appreciate all your inputs, but are you telling me indirectly that i'm aiming for something close to impossible? Am i just wasting my time because BON of nevada won't even consider my education to begin with?

i really appreciate all your inputs, but are you telling me indirectly that i'm aiming for something close to impossible? Am i just wasting my time because BON of nevada won't even consider my education to begin with?

Nope, not saying that at all, just know what you're up against.

There have been some PH grads and PH nurses that have gotten their RN license in NV without any problems, it's on a case by case basis. There are some that took their efforts out of NV due to issues with their educational background or in some cases, didn't have the local PH nursing license (a new 2013 requirement).

One of the key is to keep pressure on your dean to make sure they know all the time at every moment if they will meet the US standards and that you complete the courses as done so by the schools in the States.

Get your dean's case on wanting to see actual previous students from 2013 on, forget the previous years of 2012 and back, that's history and a good chance, it doesn't apply any more, as things have changed. You want to be able to speak, e-mail, see these 2013 applicants that have their paperwork in NV and have made it thru the NV BON system.

The one thing we've not seen yet are those that have been hired recently (within the last year) with a hospital job vs a non-hospital (LTC, personal caregiver, SNF, nursing homes etc and there's nothing with these facilites), but more than likely, most PH grads and nurses prefer the hospital settings. If you're fine in a non-hospital job, then go for it. What's your personal preference?

Understand at the same time with the stiff competition even from the locals who can't find a hospital position, they too will go after the non-hospitals. At the same time, most of the non-hospitals usually requires a year of experience.

Nothing is truly impossible, just much more difficult to face and more hurdles to jump over than say someone in this case got their education in the States.

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