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  1. spoke with the analyst in charge of my application and she is requesting for a letter from my school explaining why some of my cases were completed several semesters after the theory classes. she said she will re-evaluate my documents once that letter is received. i doubt her decision will change about my eligibility but it's worth a shot. i hope everything else besides the clinical cases is fine. the non concurrent issue was the only thing mentioned in her letter.

    if that doesnt work, then it's on to the next state NJ and NY thanks for all of the replies, the positive and even the negative ones that seemed to look down on education in the philippines
  2. I really don't see the problem here. Just comply with the requirements. No point in arguing schools in this country blah blah blah and low passing rate blah blah blah. When its all said and done..NCLEX exam is the ultimate sorting test to weed out the well prepared nurses from the rest who's not safe enough to be a nurse. No matter what school you came from or how well you did or how many clinicals you have completed...None of that will matter if you can't pass the NCLEX. When we pass, we are then safe enough right? Or is the board of nursing not confident enough with their board exam?

    Don't argue anymore of what's what...comply with the requirements, take the exam...pass the exam...no more discussions. Besides there are 49 other states that won't give you that much trouble with requirements, but they will take LONGER to process. Pros and cons.

    Let the NCLEX decide
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    Quote from htodab
    spoke with the analyst in charge of my application and she is requesting for a letter from my school explaining why some of my cases were completed several semesters after the theory classes. she said she will re-evaluate my documents once that letter is received. i doubt her decision will change about my eligibility but it's worth a shot. i hope everything else besides the clinical cases is fine. the non concurrent issue was the only thing mentioned in her letter.

    if that doesnt work, then it's on to the next state NJ and NY thanks for all of the replies, the positive and even the negative ones that seemed to look down on education in the philippines
    At least they're willing to revisit your case. If they let you retest, then there's nothing to worry about for the other applicants from the Philippines who are in the same boat. Hopefully, it works out. If not, best bet is to apply in states that utilize CGFNS CES. CGFNS takes a long time to process but they've been in the business of credential evaluation for foreign trained nurses and they know what they're doing. Good luck.
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    Quote from NRSKarenRN
    Licensure os a function of state not federal government.Many states board of healthcare / nursing regulations do not permit prescreening of nursing candidates to see if they meet board of nursing standards. That can only occur AFTER one submits application for licensure. Entire application package is reviewed after NCLEX exam is taken with results sent to candidate.
    BON's review the application documents before even allowing the candidate to take the NCLEX. Candidates can not register to Pearson-Vue without having all requirements submitted and approved by the BON. In the case of California, they claim that a license is automatically released as soon as the candidate passes the NCLEX-RN because they already checked the candidate's credentials to see if they match California's requirements.

    From the BRN website:

    "The Board of Registered Nursing (BRN) will no longer accept applications that do not contain a U.S. Social Security Number. The Nursing Practice Act provides for a unified examination and licensing application. Once an applicant passes the examination, a license is automatically issued. Under these circumstances the BRN cannot accept applications for the examination and licensure without a U.S. social security number".

  5. Quote from NurseCubanitaRN2b
    The majority of the schools in CA have about 90% pass rate on the first try. For those educated internationally it's on average 50% pass rate on first try. Schools in the US who have those pass rates would be closed soon after. Yes, some US graduated are failing the NCLEX on the first try but that's not the not the norm. Unfortunately it seems to be the norm for international nursing graduates.

    In the US fresh grads who have NEVER worked as a floor nurse wouldn't be hired to teach clinical rotations for nursing school. Those aren't CA standards. Unfortunately that seems to be a trend now in the Philippines. The excellent schools in the Philippines are now few and far between. It's a shame because they used to produce some very sharp nurses.
    There is truth to some of what you said. I will acknowledge that. But I guess the mistake of other posters here is to generalized the education in the Philippines to be substandard.

    I am working with a new nurse in my unit who finished her nursing degree in the US and boy I tell you, this nurse is extremely green that she doesn't even know the basic stuff like priming an IV line or simple drug computation. But despite that we didn't doubt the US education standard. If we are to generalize like some of the posters are doing here now, all of us nurses in our unit would think that if that's the kind of education one gets in the US, then we are all thankful that we finished our degree in our respective countries.
    Last edit by CarribRN on Dec 5, '11
  6. Quote from juan de la cruz
    ho-hum, you basically reposted what I already posted.

    and BTW, there's no country breakdown on the 2011 data, if you really read it.

    I don't agree with your opinion when you said:
    "I am not saying that international nursing education is substandard, but it is not meeting the US standards of basic nursing care". That statement is a slap in the face to numerous other internationally-trained nurses who have moved up to become successful in the US.

    Time to hit the ignore button.
    Of course she would say that since you included in your statistics some other first world countries like Australia, UK and Canada. I bet if that statistic only shows the Philippines she wouldn't change her tone.
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    Can we please keep to topic
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  8. spoke with the analyst in charge of my application and she is requesting for a letter from my school explaining why some of my cases were completed several semesters after the theory classes. she said she will re-evaluate my documents once that letter is received. i doubt her decision will change about my eligibility but it's worth a shot. i hope everything else besides the clinical cases is fine. the non concurrent issue was the only thing mentioned in her letter.

    if that doesnt work, then it's on to the next state NJ and NY thanks for all of the replies, the positive and even the negative ones that seemed to look down on education in the philippines



    to htodab- if u don't mind please update me regarding your application i wanted to know if they where able to give you the eligibility to take the exam..by the way. goodluck. I am currently processing mine too. thanks.
  9. i was able to take the exam the first time i applied but unfortunately i didnt pass. and now this issue comes up after i sent in the application to retake .
  10. I got my reply from the boards today and they want an explanation from my school why my 101 clinical cases where completed during 103 and 104.