13 states with same CA BON concurrency issues - page 3

by steppybay

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i knew of the recent vt denials and just as of yesterday my friend's letter of rejection from az, same as ca bon's reason. let's all thank our ched, prc and pna for doing a "great" job of not meeting the states minimum... Read More


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    This is scary I am currently studying out here in Manila with the new curriculum though. And planning to move back to Florida to get my license I still have 3 more yrs to graduateIt sucks that CHED are not doing anything about this except for changing their curriculum.I misght graduate 2016 and most probably the rules or issues about concurrency will be more strict and most or the entire 50 states will do the same thing as CAHow about those students who cant afford US education or doesn't want to loan some money.Or can't put up with all the wait list ****...This is crazy....Thanks for sharing people...
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    Australia may be a better option.you will make way more money in Australia than you can make in the usa
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    If you have the right to live in the usa,want to work in the usa, go to school in the usa. Work as CNA, go to school part time, go to school one year and become a LPN. State schools are reasonably priced, if you parents can not afford to help you will get financial aide.
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    Quote from riena_pie
    This is scary I am currently studying out here in Manila with the new curriculum though. And planning to move back to Florida to get my license I still have 3 more yrs to graduateIt sucks that CHED are not doing anything about this except for changing their curriculum.I misght graduate 2016 and most probably the rules or issues about concurrency will be more strict and most or the entire 50 states will do the same thing as CAHow about those students who cant afford US education or doesn't want to loan some money.Or can't put up with all the wait list ****...This is crazy....Thanks for sharing people...
    Well, supposely the CHED and the others (PRC and PNA) have finally decided to meet with the USA's minimum educational requirements recently, as it's not just CA needing this, but several other States. They also are already now making the neccesary changes/

    But I worry as it seems like there are those in these "new" curriculum are merely adding a few more hundred of class hours, but I just read where some applicant is now getting denied for having "excessive" hours, meaning I think CHED thinks by allowing more hours it will offset the concurrency or lack of certain clinical hours in certain courses.

    But I don't know if they know what they are doing or thinking this will "cure" the problem. I still think the problem is the current students now that will not qualify to do their clinical and theoratical courses in the same exact semester that is mandatory in the State's evaluation will passed over for the newer classes. Therefore, the students are now lead to believe, the PH problem will be a thing of the past.

    I've said this once and I will go on record again, that I still do not trust the 3 big nursing powers to be (CHED, PRC and PNA) to meet the many State's BON requirements, I could be wrong and if so, I will stand corrected.

    With that said, let's hope that you newer generation of PH nurses are in a better world, with the full understanding that if what's been said in the various articles posted, the US job market for PH nurses and students will be very tough (at least until 2020) as you're competing with US nursing grads and nurses who have top priority over any foreign applicants and more preferences to hire those US students who have completed their clinicals in the same hospital many PH students are after.

    The US is graduating more of their own students than years before.

    I can only understand your frustration with the waiting list, but just keep in mind that while you're able to get in a college in the Phils, pay way less money, you may also face the opposite come time to look for that first new grad job.

    If say you had a cousin or friend and you both started school in the same year, but you went to PH and the other person went to school in the States, I would bet the family cow that upon graduation, they would get hired much quicker than you and probably in a better job position. By quicker I mean, you could be 2 years or more still looking, if any jobs are able to come your way. That's the way I see the real world today and in the near future.
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    Quote from Kuyafern
    Hey steppybay, Yeah i'm still here. I haven't been active lately. I'm trying to focus on reviewing. I figured that if I do get an ATT i'll be ready. Can't risk taking the NCLEX and failing and have my cases being reviewed. If it can happen in Ca it can happen almost anywhere these days.

    Yeah our theory is coming true.. It'll be much harder by 2013 March onwards with the incoming 2013 grads. States with over populated nurses and applicants will soon follow the concurrency issue. Jeez now Florida is in this. I'm not surprised though. Just another prediction; Hawaii, New York, and Nevada may be the next in line.

    People still applying in California and won't listen. This state is too overrated. I agree with you when you said, if international graduates do meet the concurrency issue, California will look for new ways just to limit applicants. For instance "you lack hours" "method of teaching does not meet US standards" "lack of certain subjects" "Grades are not satisfactory"

    We're facing rough times and we're in a long road of recovery. 2020. Too long. It may even come to a point where all the states require all international graduates to go back to school.
    Yep, I agree with you, I have told several friends and their friends (batch 2011 and 2012, different schools) that applied into CA are not listening and telling them it's a waste of time and money, so just this weekend, 9 of them all got their rejection letters, one who months ago said that she will have NO problems at all, she was told that her school did meet 100% of the CA BON issues. She got her answer this Saturday in the mail, denied. Well, nothing we can do and let them try with the understanding don't hold your breath and prepare to still take the NCLEX just not in CA (or the other affected States).

    I mentioned earlier about the "lack of hours" you so said and that the CHED has increased some classes to have a new 350 plus hours, but I think it's in the wrong courses as they are already some students reporting they are getting denied due to "excessive hours", meaning they (the PH nursing agencies) are allocating the wrong hours in the wrong classes. The State's BONs are not stupid, but I can tell you who is responsible for not understanding the minimum educational requirements of the USA. PH agencies STOP fooling with the students! Get your XXXX together!
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    We know that NV is also enforcing the concurrency rules as someone just got their rejection letter and posted in the forum. However, I think it may depend on your school's transcript and whether or not you did complete them with success.

    I'm reminded of another PH grad who was denied her ATT in CA this year, but recently got her ATT in NV, passed the NCLEX and just got a job as nurse in NV, happy days for her You guys can read her threads by clicking on her name. I hope you don't mind, starleviosa, lol.

    So it may be that while NV is now on the concurrency list and depends on your school's records, it is possible to become a USRN.
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    Yeah. I believe Nevada is safe, if minimum hours are met, and if there are no mistakes in your CES report.

    But what's intriguing is how can the Nevada State imply that an applicant has non concurrent cases if they only used CGFNS and Nevada didn't evaluate their cases. is it possible that they may have gotten that information from Ca since California evaluates cases. I was warned once by a friend, luckily passed his NCLEX in Ca 2010 and now an RN in CA and in AK, that California may use your papers against you in the future and advised me not to apply in California. Is this what he meant? It's a possibility, tho to think it's scary how concurrency issues are progressing along the states.

    In this thread http://allnurses.com/nurse-registrat...ml#post6835033 Ambinjan posted her letter from Nevada BON.

    I'm still waiting for CGFNS to receive my transcripts. Taking forever!! I know my cases are not concurrent with my theory and it would be pretty weird/scary if they knew that without having my cases evaluated, let alone i never even passed my req's to Ca. Only time will tell.

    Quote from steppybay
    We know that NV is also enforcing the concurrency rules as someone just got their rejection letter and posted in the forum. However, I think it may depend on your school's transcript and whether or not you did complete them with success.

    I'm reminded of another PH grad who was denied her ATT in CA this year, but recently got her ATT in NV, passed the NCLEX and just got a job as nurse in NV, happy days for her You guys can read her threads by clicking on her name. I hope you don't mind, starleviosa, lol.

    So it may be that while NV is now on the concurrency list and depends on your school's records, it is possible to become a USRN.
    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Oct 7, '12 : Reason: editied link.
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    hi, one of my friends called new york and new jersey Board of Nursing just last week for inquiries about their requirements then unfortunately, they started to add the requirements that the california and the other 12 states have... (just sharing) so that means there are 15 states that have the same concurrency issues...
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    2 down. Just as predicted. Darn.
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    Right!! We were just talking about it fern;(( idk where to go now;/


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