does a NP average more money than a PA? can NP's work w/out a docs oversight?

[pts]

i heard NP's make more than PA's on average and can work in many states, without a docs supervision? true?

[patnshan]

Hi, Pat:

I am a pre-nursing student.

At a PA program class profile, I do see a girl with a BSN degree.

I am curious, what are the advantages do you think by being a RN and PA at the same time? Do you work at both roles now? Or you just work as PA only, PA seems to make more money than RN does. I heard there is some requirement that one has to work certain time to keep RN license active.

Hi,

I do not use both licenses. I keep the RN license so I can tell the RN's that I am an RN :chuckle No, really, I feel it's something I've earned, and may need to use it someday (like to get into a DNP program if they take over the medical world, which I doubt :) ) It also really does help me in my interaction with both RN's and NP's. They respect me a bit more because of it, I think.

The BSN is a GREAT preparation for entering a PA or NP program, however you can get into a PA program with bachelor's in other fields and/or significant medical experience. This can be in any area.

I feel that having been trained in both the medical and nursing model has helped me a great deal. I can teach patients both aboout the actual disease process (medicine) and how to deal with it from a social standpoint, etc. (nursing). All the RN's I know that have become PA's are extremely well prepared, especially when they've had actual nursing experience. Again though, it is not a substitute for rigorous training in diagnosing and treating disease in your NP or PA program.

In my state, all you have to do is pay your $75 every two years, and you are active with your RN license. IMHO, that has to change. One should need to be practicing in some capacity to keep a license. That would require some of the old folks in my nursing program to actually know what they are talking about in terms of patient care. Of course, I feel that being a PA would qualify me :)

Good Luck,

Pat

[foxyhill21]

Under one of the forums in CRNA, a person posted this information about salaries and I have found it very beneficial. This will tell the salaries for NPs, OT, PT and PA.

http://www.cejkasearch.com/compensa...tion_survey.htm

[Danielle4]

Hi,

I do not use both licenses. I keep the RN license so I can tell the RN's that I am an RN :chuckle No, really, I feel it's something I've earned, and may need to use it someday (like to get into a DNP program if they take over the medical world, which I doubt :) ) It also really does help me in my interaction with both RN's and NP's. They respect me a bit more because of it, I think.

The BSN is a GREAT preparation for entering a PA or NP program, however you can get into a PA program with bachelor's in other fields and/or significant medical experience. This can be in any area.

I feel that having been trained in both the medical and nursing model has helped me a great deal. I can teach patients both aboout the actual disease process (medicine) and how to deal with it from a social standpoint, etc. (nursing). All the RN's I know that have become PA's are extremely well prepared, especially when they've had actual nursing experience. Again though, it is not a substitute for rigorous training in diagnosing and treating disease in your NP or PA program.

In my state, all you have to do is pay your $75 every two years, and you are active with your RN license. IMHO, that has to change. One should need to be practicing in some capacity to keep a license. That would require some of the old folks in my nursing program to actually know what they are talking about in terms of patient care. Of course, I feel that being a PA would qualify me :)

Good Luck,

Pat

Pat, I really admire you for having done both perspectives as a nurse and as a PA. I would definitely would be one of your patients!

[traumaRUs, MSN, APRN]

I work in central IL and work with some RN's that are PA's also. They are tremendous and huge help to getting patients through the system.

[Danielle4]

one of the girls I am going to PA school with is an RN and has been a nurse for a long time. I am sure I will be learning a lot of things from her while we are classmates.

[patnshan]

Pat, I really admire you for having done both perspectives as a nurse and as a PA. I would definitely would be one of your patients!

Thanks! You don't want to be my patient, as you'd have to be admitted to the hospital :wink2:

Take care,

Pat