The Unwritten Laws Nurse Managers Live By - page 4

1. Always believe the worst about your subordinates, no matter how glowing a reputation or history of competence they may have. Never give anybody the benefit of the doubt. 2. Never praise or... Read More

  1. Visit  nursel56 profile page
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    Quote from Esme12
    Now that you put it that way......I have to agree. Typically....these days many have no brain to pick. So I have to agree with you there.....administrators don't want bright, innovative, caring managers...they want task masters and yes men.

    I was a great manager. I always had waiting lists into my units. I stood behind my nurses and allowed them to manage themselves...I would only step in when needed. I refused to micro manage, I never allowed bullying or gossip and always surrounded myself with the best and brightest.

    That is why I left management....they wanted an unreasonable budget, staffing cuts that were unsafe and could careless about the staff. These "deadwoods" are what the senior management want so I don't think they will be going anywhere soon....((HUGS))
    Boy do I ever miss your type of manager, Esme. Most of mine were as you describe yourself, and were never loathe to pitch in and help with patient care. In those days, most worked their way up the ranks and could change an occupied bed better than some of the techs. If anyone presently has a manager like that, let them know how much you appreciate them!
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  2. Visit  lkulmann profile page
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    The nurse manager who took the time to train their nurses to be the best they could be is a dying breed. I don't get it cuz the nurse manager took 24hr responsibility of their unit seriously. Nurses are treated like independent contracters now.
    All4NursingRN, jadelpn, noyesno, and 1 other like this.
  3. Visit  Esme12 profile page
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    Quote from nursel56
    Boy do I ever miss your type of manager, Esme. Most of mine were as you describe yourself, and were never loathe to pitch in and help with patient care. In those days, most worked their way up the ranks and could change an occupied bed better than some of the techs. If anyone presently has a manager like that, let them know how much you appreciate them!
    Thanks.....
    I am THE BEST occupied bed maker!!!! I can change a complete bed with a patient with an open chest and an extra linen change/bath blanket underneath! and no wrinkles!

    Being an old bat myself I am obsessed with a patient being neat and clean in a nice neat rumpled bed..... I loved to leave my office to do patient care. IC starts, Lab draws.......I always wore scrubs and my lab coats. I kept "meeting clothes" when I had to wear them....but they don't want managers/nurses like me any more.
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  4. Visit  lkulmann profile page
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    Quote from Esme12
    Thanks.....
    I am THE BEST occupied bed maker!!!! I can change a complete bed with a patient with an open chest and an extra linen change/bath blanket underneath! and no wrinkles!

    Being an old bat myself I am obsessed with a patient being neat and clean in a nice neat rumpled bed..... I loved to leave my office to do patient care. IC starts, Lab draws.......I always wore scrubs and my lab coats. I kept "meeting clothes" when I had to wear them....but they don't want managers/nurses like me any more.
    Who are THEY and what kind of nurse have you become?
  5. Visit  lkulmann profile page
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    Omg, I'm a genius!! If nurses become independent contracters then I could make my optional national union work and these monster healthcare corporations would have to give the nurse contracters the nurse patient ratio according to their contract or its no deal....ha!
  6. Visit  morte profile page
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    I actually had thought of something similar....including the union providing a perdiem pool.
    Quote from lkulmann
    Omg, I'm a genius!! If nurses become independent contracters then I could make my optional national union work and these monster healthcare corporations would have to give the nurse contracters the nurse patient ratio according to their contract or its no deal....ha!
  7. Visit  lkulmann profile page
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    Quote from morte
    I actually had thought of something similar....including the union providing a perdiem pool.
    That's because great minds think alike Seriously though, things are changing fast with Obamacare and the idea of people staying home with home care v ecf/snf facilities. There needs to be more options for nurses as well. Most important is unity and protection because we are being mistreated in many ways. That is just simply unacceptable. I think nnu is paving the way for change in some national standards. Maybe we can branch off of that movement and get creative with union ideas. Honestly I don't care if businesses want to make a profit, but don't abuse the caregivers or the patients. Its just disrespectful. After all, we're the ones making the money for them. The nurse managers are supposed to protect us, but they're the enemy. Idk how that happens, but it did so we need to find our own protection. I think of unions as a last resort. When management fails the staff they manage...its time
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  8. Visit  lkulmann profile page
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    I'd like to add to the unwritten laws. I had a Nurse Ass. Manager say to her colleague while looking at me ' look at her! She thinks she's one of us!" LOL...Imagine? Simply delusional...
  9. Visit  catlover314 profile page
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    Just wondering...why is this discussion in the nursing management section of AN? The point seems to be to complain about management, which seems like a different issue entirely.
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  10. Visit  lmccrn62 profile page
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    Interesting comments but I have to say there are bad manager and there are good ones just as there are good and poor staff. I worked in a magnet hospital for 20 yrs and for 10 of those years as a manager. I lost my job and went to a hospital that is in a very urban area, unionized and run by the state. So what was better? Magnet for sure a much better environment. I cant even begin to tell you of the bad behavior i witness and the crap the staff do on a daily basis. As for the list of issues that was presented I have to say there needs to be a list for staff that we must manage.
    1. Make sure you thank me everyday I show up for work. You are privileged to have me here.
    2. Yes I can do whatever I want. You should have no expectations of me.
    3. I am not accountable for anything it's everyone else's fault and never mine.
    4. Patients are not first I am first.
    5. I don't have to be a team player.
    6. Don't expect me to show any respect for anyone but you must respect me.
    7. Gossiping is what I do best. When you have a issue with me I feel the need to make you look bad.
    8. I need all my sick days and then some, my life is so overwhelming.
    9 I get many personal calls because that is my right.
    10. I have many personal issues and you need to understand them.
    11. Why isn't staffing 1:1. I have way too much to do.
    12. Being on time? Right... I have a long commute, my kids , etc.
    13. I love to complain but do nothing to be a change maker.
    Yes I could go on and on. We made the choice of the profession we know the work and the expectation. So lets all come to work, be on time and truly give 100% when you are there stop complaining and focus on the goal.
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  11. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    Quote from lmccrn62
    Interesting comments but I have to say there are bad manager and there are good ones just as there are good and poor staff. I worked in a magnet hospital for 20 yrs and for 10 of those years as a manager. I lost my job and went to a hospital that is in a very urban area, unionized and run by the state. So what was better? Magnet for sure a much better environment. I cant even begin to tell you of the bad behavior i witness and the crap the staff do on a daily basis.
    *** Interesting! I left a Magnet hospital in large part due to chronic unsafe staffing levels, very low moral, tyranical supervisors and administration who treated nurses as disposable, poor patient out comes, and poor treatment of staff my admin in general. I now work in a wonderful, non-Magnet. union hospital (not run my the sate though). Moral if great, nurses are treated fairly and decently, our patients love us and our satisfaction scores reflect that. It's nice to work in a professional enviroment, unlike the constant infighting I have experienced in all the Magnet hospitals I have worked in (4 of them). I hope my living never depends on a Magnet hospital again. Among my little group of friends who are ICU, ER, transport nurses and CRNAs Magnet hospitals are employers of last resort.
  12. Visit  lmccrn62 profile page
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    Sorry that was your experience because it wasn't mine. The place I am leaving is so scary and the ones I feel sorry for are the patients. It's attached to a prominent medical school.
    1. Administration hate each other.
    2. No collaboration and/ or respect between any discipline
    3. staff turn off alarms that annoy them.
    3. Press Ganey about answering concerns 1%
    4. Patients call bells for hours with no response.
    5. Patients often lay in their own filth for hours
    6. Patients are not suctioned and the RRT team responds to suction.
    7. Nothing is anyone's job.
    8. Staff do not talk to patients and given little respect because they are black and poor.
    9. No idea what evidenced based practice is?
    10 patients mouths are disgusting you can actually pick the crust out.
    11. No reinforcement of anything good just the negative.
    12. Staff will not use the facility for their own healthcare
    The list go on and on so I just have to stop because it makes me sick. So to save myself I am leaving after 8 months. While no place is perfect I refuse to work in hell.
  13. Visit  lkulmann profile page
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    Quote from catlover314
    Just wondering...why is this discussion in the nursing management section of AN? The point seems to be to complain about management, which seems like a different issue entirely.
    My guess is the management team of healthcare should gain some insight into their behaviors and character from their staff. Just a guess....? Ya think?

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