Taking Lunches, Not Clocking Out
- 0Jan 16, '08 by kelbelAt my facility, we are having a problem with almost everyone in the facility going to lunch but not clocking out. It it were just the CMT or CNA's, we could make the nurses responsible. However, many of the nurses are not taking the time to walk to the timeclock. They simply fill out the board saying they forgot to clock out or they did not have time to get to the timeclock, but did eat. It also happens that people clock out but "forget" to clock back in, leading me to beleive that lunch is taking longer then 30 minutes. If this was occasional, I could understand but we have people doing it EVERY shift. How do we enforce this in order to cover ourselves with the Dept of Labor. My superiors want a firm answer to help put an end to all of this! Payroll is a nightmare trying to read the punch details!! Any suggestions welcome!:angryfire:angryfire:angryfire
- 0Jan 18, '08 by Longhorn Mamawe automatically deduct 30 minutes for a meal as well. if for some reason they don't get a chance to eat, they can turn in an edit slip and get paid. if they leave the building, they must clock out.
we have scheduled in kronos (our timekeeping system) the shift times - 0645-1915 and 1845 - 0715. that way they get the whole 12 hours for the shift even with the 30 minute deduction.
- 2Jan 18, '08 by llg GuideTo make professionals clock in and out like that for lunch is insulting. Change your system. If you treat your nursing staff that way, it's no wonder they are not anxious to jump through those hoops.
At least take the above suggestions and just build the automatic lunch break into the system -- requiring paperwork only if some exception needs to be made.
- 2Jan 23, '08 by RN1989Quote from llgI completely disagree. Whether or not you or anyone likes the system, that is the system this facility uses. All staff are informed of the rules when they take a job. It is their professional responsibility to conform to the rules of the job unless the rules violate safety standards or applicable laws. This policy does neither. If staff are taking longer breaks than the 30 minutes allowed, they obviously are not professional enough to do what is ethically correct on their own. It does not matter how you are treated by an employer, you should always do your best and follow the rules unless there are extreme circumstances. To not do so is unprofessional.To make professionals clock in and out like that for lunch is insulting. Change your system. If you treat your nursing staff that way, it's no wonder they are not anxious to jump through those hoops.
- 5Feb 26, '08 by erdiane[ It does not matter how you are treated by an employer, you should always do your best and follow the rules unless there are extreme circumstances. To not do so is unprofessional.[/QUOTE]
you have got to be kidding me.
- 0Feb 26, '08 by eccentricRNAt my facility a 30min lunch is automatically deducted from our pay unless we punch out without a lunch. But that doesn't keep people from taking a longer lunch. Our days with no lunches is also monitored & if someone is continually taking no lunch then disciplinary action is started. Use your system to your advantage, issue a warning & go from there. Once you make it clear it is not acceptable then hopefully things will change.
- 1Feb 26, '08 by SarahK73I have worked in one facility that used the automatic deductions but the problem then became that there were several people who were abusing the "No Lunch" button when they clocked out. I have to watch for trends during payroll, as well as those who like to clock in 1 min early to get a extra 15 mins of pay.
The other facility I worked at had a very strict policy that if you did not clock in and out correctly you were given a warning and written disciplines for every 3 time clock adjustments. I only had to give a few warnings and 1 or 2 disciplines and they figured out very quickly how to do it correctly.
- 1Feb 26, '08 by caroladybelleQuote from erdianeyou have got to be kidding me.[/QUOTE][ It does not matter how you are treated by an employer, you should always do your best and follow the rules unless there are extreme circumstances. To not do so is unprofessional.
Not to mention, but when these micromanaged professionals clock out, are they actually replaced by another professional that takes report, gives meds and fully "covers" the lunch so that the clocked out employee can actually enjoy a completely undisturbed, relaxing lunch?
Somehow, I doubt it.
If they are truly "off the clock" then no one can get them to do "just one thing" or ask "just one question" or take any calls. I have a feeling management would not be happy about that.
- 0Feb 26, '08 by Spidey's mom, ADN, BSN, RN GuideWe have paper time cards and use a pen.
Also, for our 12 hour shift of say . . 3-3 we are there at 0245 for report and leave at 1515 after report. An extra half hour is built into the system. You write down when you take your lunch on your time card.