The Disrespect Of Nurses - page 4
by TheCommuter 24,303 Views | 81 Comments Senior Moderator
I was at my workplace earlier this month when my supervisor told me about a volatile situation that was unfolding on a different floor between another nurse and a verbally abusive family member. This particular family member was... Read More
- 12Oct 27, '12 by shallrnI was charge nurse on night shift a couple of years back when our PCA came running down the hall saying the patient in room 8 was threatening to beat up one of the nurses. This 6'4", 240 pound patient was threatening and poking his nurse in the chest when I arrived. I stepped between him and his nurse and told him that his behavior will not be tolerated and that if he does not immediately desist security will be called. At this point I became his target and he punched me in the side of my head. I grabbed him, to defend myself from another punch, and we went all over the room I am 20 years older than him and was tiring quickly. I was finally able to get him in a headlock and hold him down on the other bed in the room (thank God no one was in it) until security arrived. I believe this was the beginning of my hatred of nursing. Working long, hard hours, getting no respect or appreciation from management or patients has taken its toll on me. We are highly trained professionals trying to do the best we can but are looked at as nothing but waiters and waitresses by patients and expenses that need to be cut by management. At the hospital where I work our PTO is going to be cut by 72 hours a year. Management is very concerned about patient satisfaction surveys because of reimbursement issues but refuses to do the thing, in my opinion that would help the most, which is to have proper staffing so you will have time to give patients the attention they require. I know my comment rambles on some but I feel better after doing it.
- 3Oct 27, '12 by sonia211This is 1 of the many reasons I have been looking for different Nursing jobs AWAY from the bedside. It has become obvious to me that nurses are no more than assistants to Drs. We are held responsible for all kinds of ridiculous things which mgmt thinks helps save money. We recently got another email from our CEO telling us how budget cuts could mean wage cuts for all of us in the future. However its funny to note that mgmt does NOT get included in any of these salary cuts. Instead if anything they always get a raise to help encourage them to make the hospital moooooore money. Mgmt has Noooooooooooo idea what we do at the bedside and they don't care as long as the hospital continues to make money we mean nothing to them. If firing a nurse makes for better customer service they don't mind because they know that there are 15 new grads waiting for that job. Funny thing those new grads don't even last 1 year before they turn around and enroll in NP school to get away from the bedside.
We go to school to learn so much and do more than this yet we have become a task-oriented profession who are not allowed to think or act autonomously. It is very depressing.
My hospital pays low and doesn't treat their staff too well so when they have a high census and call nurses to do extra shifts NO ONE shows up. I am only here for the experience but now I too am looking to get out of bedside.
I already told my manager i am tired of bedside nursing and am going back to school to do something different. She told me you're smart and can do it so go for it! She knows what bedside is like and totally supports my moving forward.
- 1Oct 27, '12 by TheCommuter Senior ModeratorQuote from PMFB-RNNope, it's not a magnet facility by a long shot. It's not even a general acute care hospital.*** Let me guess, a Magnet hospital? That family memeber would not have been tolerated in my hospital. I wouldn't work for a hospital with so little reguard for it's staff.
Quote from PMFB-RNUnfortunately, I cannot just 'get out of there' because I live in a large metro area with a local employment market that is glutted with too many nurses and too few nursing jobs. Although I have been applying for jobs out of state, I am at a keen disadvantage because I possess the wrong mix of experience.*** Wow so that hospital has a tract record of throwing it's staff under a bus. I would be out of there.
- 3Oct 27, '12 by anotheronetypicAl blame the victim garbage. wow some of your (multiple posters) patients should be on a locked psych ward. it is a typical customer service job but about a million times worse on the customer is always right mantra. Most of our management also believes if a pt or visitor is rude or disrespectful or hostile or combative it must be the nurse's fault somehow. must not have communicated right, bedside report will fix it , not responding to pain , (as if i can order the dilaudid ivp ) on and on.
- 2Oct 27, '12 by suga_junkieI work in a private hospital in Australia (so similar to the US system where the hospital is running a business as opposed to public hospitals here) and that sort of behavior would never fly. Security would be called and patients can be and have been banned from the hospital for being violent. We have had security guard patients due to aggressive behavior related to their medical condition (e.g we had a patient with steroid induced psychosis so they couldn't really help their behavior) to protect the nurses. I don't believe this is a universal problem and it seems most likely related to the US system where profit appears to be the bottom line in healthcare.
- 0Oct 27, '12 by conroenurseSad to say I witnessed a medical student and a nurse fall down elevator shaft while dealing with a violent patient. The Medical student died, the nurse paralized for life. I try to remember that when your dealing with patients, families, there are all kinds of family traditions, family drama going on, and nerves are high at times when family member is hospitalized......
- 3Oct 27, '12 by JZ_RNPatients who tell me that I "work for them"... no, I care for you, and for many others, and I work for the hospital.
Patients who are physically abusive, happened many times.
Patients who tell me, isn't it your job to do this for me? (Wiping, handling food issues, getting tv remotes, fixing things like a repair man, and best of all, getting a ride for them LOL)
Patients who demand things for free that cost money. I don't get paid nearly enough to help you out people.
- 4Oct 27, '12 by suga_junkieQuote from conroenurseIn the public system the government pays our wages. The government gets a lot of that money from our universal healthcare tax (the Medicare levy). Sure, they might try to keep the costs down, but the difference is they are not trying to make a profit from patients. Hospitals are not competing against each other for more patients and therefore patient satisfaction surveys do not determine management's actions towards violent patients. So no, I don't believe money is the bottom line here. Private hospitals are a little different, some are not for profit, some are. However I still have not heard of any hospitals ignoring violence or aggression against their nurses nor catering to every patient's whim as I do here on these forums from American nurses.Really? You don't think money is the bottom line at your hospitals and health care systems in other countries. Really? You draw a pay ck correct? All your support team draws pay ck's right? Money for equipment, drugs.....surely that is not given free of charge.