I started working for a sub-acute LTC as the DSD last week. The DON and I hit it off because we have the same vision on what we need to do in order to solve the problems we current have.
Early this week, we posted an ad for RN charge nurse with no experience required. We feel it's best to have trainable nurses even though they lack experience. I was tasked to interview for the position as I will be the one training them for the first 36-hours.
Needless to say, I was flabbergasted with the array of applicants we had and now know why the some nurses eat their young.
- New
RN
grad said she's been working as a CNA and knows she can do the job because there's not much difference between being a charge nurse and CNA
- New
RN
grad said that she'll consider our offer, so I asked if she is being offered another position (as we need someone full time). She said she's expecting an offer any day now since she finished the online application earlier this week (and she was not kidding).
- Someone coming into the interview with a wrinkled nose and irked expression and said that she can smell the BM from the floor
- Someone who wrote "expert in IV medication preparation"; when asked what's their experience on it, she stated she's been a vet nurse and she's been doing those a lot.
- Someone who said they are not available for the first two weeks of April as they are going on a cruise
- Someone asking for the pay, end up telling me that new grad RNs in LA are paid $34/hr starting at the beginning of the interview.
- When asked about core measures, all of them couldn't deliver one intelligent answer.
and a lot more...
Looking back, I asked myself if I ever acted as arrogant and privileged as the ones I encountered. Most of the ones the new grads I interviewed have this air... like they have mastered a craft. Like I should be rolling out the red carpet for them.
I am sure that this person would be greatly discouraged that you chose to post this. It seems as though you are implying new grads should be greatful... people say dumb things in interviews .. Maybe that position was there very first interview or maybe they are not knowledgable when writing a resume. don't complain ... Just don't hire them and don't break down look to build up. Maybe you could put in your job requirements no new grads or 30+ because I think you are all ungrateful and unintelligen nurses!!
Job requirements: Assist the veterinarian with a variety of tests, procedures, surgeries and examinations. Perform medication administration, procedures, and assessments as needed. Provide education to owners for multiple medical conditions. Coordinate follow-up care...
Skills:
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If those skills were listed specifically in relation to the job as a Vet Tech, then it would be entirely appropriate to list them all just as they were. I agree that if she were trying to make it seem as though the skills applied to humans, it would be misleading, but we don't have any indication that that's what she did. Unfortunately, the OP only included the part of the resume that best made her point. Without seeing the entire thing, it's wrong to pass judgement.
Ha ha. I worked as a vet tech many years ago (highschool). Necropsy for vets? means mostly, toss 'em in the deep freeze until crematory picks 'em up.
If I ever caught someone "toss" a pt into a deep freeze, we would be having a serious talk! They may have to be bagged, and they may have to go in a freezer, but it will be done gently and with love and care. I have only come across two people in my career that were ignorant enought to disrespect a deceased pt within my line of sight, and you better believe they felt the wrath.
Thanks Ashley, maybe now a few nurses will have a better idea of what a vet tech is capable of! Truthfully, I have just been finding an excuse to procrastinate on studying...guess I better get back to it
I am also curious as to why, if you found the resume so comical and outlandish, did you invite her in for an interview? I am guessing you limited your applicant pool by stating no experience necessary and "charge nurse" in the add. A lot of people with no experience would realize right away that it is a red flag to want a charge nurse with no nursing experience.
The whole add doesn't sound kosher to me. I wouldn't follow any Charge Nurse with no experience. Although when I worked agency a while back I worked in a hospital that had GN's that did not have their licenses yet in charge. I would call my agency's RN on call if I had a problem.
In hospitals, charge nurses are generally a resource for the other nurses on the floor. Almost always the charge nurse is a RN. In LTC, they're THE nurse for the set of patients, in charge of their set of patients and the CNAs for those patients. Often the charge nurse is a LPN.
Lots of LTC charge nurses start out with no experience.
I find how the OP putting the vet tech's resume online in very poor taste and unprofessional. I would never work for a company who posted and ridiculed resumes online.
I wonder if the OP's manager knows she did this....What were you thinking?Talk about eating thy young. Funny she hasn't come back to comment.
I find how the OP putting the vet tech's resume online in very poor taste and unprofessional. I would never work for a company who posted and ridiculed resumes online.
I wonder if the OP's manager knows she did this....What were you thinking?Talk about eating thy young. Funny she hasn't come back to comment.
I find it even funnier that it has been pointed out that the OP herself is also a new grad, and has only been at this company for less than a month..but yet..she is already in a position to hire & train new staff?! How can you train someone when you are still fairly inexperienced & learning the ropes as well?
It's somewhat ironic OP that this discussion focuses on the professionalism of other nurses, and in particular new grads. Early in this thread, you posted an excerpt of someone's resume. This is very unprofessional.
OCRN63, that was a different time and place that brought you up, if you get my drift. That time and place is gone forever.
Took me 22 years before I got out of my previous career. I've got a kicker resume from it and references that go to bat for me too. Do not fear the accomplished, we easily see who has achieved in nursing, what we've achieved in our previous field. We respect that, the babies don't - they can't.
Wow. Can we say stereotyping? How about agism? When people discriminate based on age/generation, they're only proving (in a public forum, no less) how close-minded they are. People from older generations aren't better than younger ones simply because they are older. Let's look at an individual's mind, attitude, personality, before judging them.
In hospitals, charge nurses are generally a resource for the other nurses on the floor. Almost always the charge nurse is a RN. In LTC, they're THE nurse for the set of patients, in charge of their set of patients and the CNAs for those patients. Often the charge nurse is a LPN.
Lots of LTC charge nurses start out with no experience.
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I am sure that this person would be greatly discouraged that you chose to post this. It seems as though you are implying new grads should be greatful... people say dumb things in interviews .. Maybe that position was there very first interview or maybe they are not knowledgable when writing a resume. don't complain ... Just don't hire them and don't break down look to build up. Maybe you could put in your job requirements no new grads or 30+ because I think you are all ungrateful and unintelligen nurses!!