North Shore University RN Fellowship? Input needed!

Wsmith16, ADN, BSN · Jun 15, 2008

Thanks again for giving us another perspective. I'll be on the job hunt next yr I want to be in a hospital where staff is somewhat supportive to new grads. Your thoughts really helped/

Ehope · Jun 15, 2008

"We all got our payouts and just simply moved on. "

Mother23, thanks for taking the time to write this. I was seriously considering applying for this once done with school, but if the situation is that dire I don't know if it's worth it. I want to get ICU experience and they were the only place I really found that hire GNs. If anyone knows of any other places that would hire a new grad ADN in the ICU I would be very grateful if you shared.

Can you explain what you mean by the payouts? Is that something you had to pay them?

Also, I know that you have to take critical care essentials I and II. Not to sound stupid, but do you get to keep that on your record if you leave early?

thanks,

E

drizzle · Jun 16, 2008

Wow thanks for giving us the other side of the story Mother23!! :up: I've only heard nothing but the good and positive things about this critical care program in the past (which I did applied for but they didn't take me :imbar ) and it's good to have other perspectives for other new nurses thinking about applying, and i am sorry your experience was not a good one.

However, I just want to point out that your experience is only from the CTICU at LIJ from what i am reading... do you know if that's also the case with the other fellows in other units and hosp (SICU, MICU, CTICU @ Manhasset) ??? I am not sure how long ago was your experience, i mean could things have been different now perhaps (hopefully b/c i know a few classmates/ friends whom are in the program now)? I've heard different things from different people who have been/are in the program.. it could be b/c they are in diff units/hosp, etc. :confused:

Just curious Mother23, when I applied I went for the SICU @ LIJ and I seem to remember that the CTICU there is connected to SICU, right next to each other with the same manager is that correct??

Thanks~ :nurse:

enigma2441 · Jun 16, 2008

I use to work at LIJ as a respiratory therapist. I heard awful things from a lot of the nurses who went thru the fellowship program. Majority of the people who started don't even manage to stay a full year. From what I understand the training is exceptional. The problem is once you get on the unit. As mentioned by mother23, not an inviting environment. Typically they like to "pick" on the new people. As for manhasset I haven't heard stories like these. So, I would say pick manhasset over LIJ.

I for one interviewed for the program last year and for some reason the recruiter was very nasty to me. I'm currently working with another girl who interviewed and had the same experience. Guess she was having a bad day. She kept trying to push me off to LIJ's MICU and I knew i didn't want to go there. She kept pressing, I almost walked out of the interview. Was a horrible experience. Glad i'm not there though. Don't pay enough as it is. Not worth the hassle unless u gonna get the training and keep it moving after that.

olivia28 · Jun 16, 2008

To those who have gone thru or are currently in the program:

Aside from the good/bad experiences, does the clinical program prepare you for real experiences? Is it a good program up to the point of actually being on the floor?

Wsmith16, ADN, BSN · Jun 16, 2008

I use to work at LIJ as a respiratory therapist. I heard awful things from a lot of the nurses who went thru the fellowship program. Majority of the people who started don't even manage to stay a full year. From what I understand the training is exceptional. The problem is once you get on the unit. As mentioned by mother23, not an inviting environment. Typically they like to "pick" on the new people. As for manhasset I haven't heard stories like these. So, I would say pick manhasset over LIJ.
I for one interviewed for the program last year and for some reason the recruiter was very nasty to me. I'm currently working with another girl who interviewed and had the same experience. Guess she was having a bad day. She kept trying to push me off to LIJ's MICU and I knew i didn't want to go there. She kept pressing, I almost walked out of the interview. Was a horrible experience. Glad i'm not there though. Don't pay enough as it is. Not worth the hassle unless u gonna get the training and keep it moving after that.

If possible let us know what hospital you currenytly work for. I'd like to end up in a hopital that is open to new grads. Thanks

enigma2441 · Jun 17, 2008

I work at New York Hospital Queens

livinonaprayer · Jun 17, 2008

Thank you so much for your honest account of the Fellowship program at LIJ. I am very interested and have had the interviews & job offer for the LIJ SICU. Thus far I have been impressed and excited at the opportunity. I am wondering if the management is the same as when you were there...and did anyone have a good experience and what made it work for them? Is anyone currently in the second semester and if so can you please describe? Am desperately wanting to know!

thanks!

Natalia K · Dec 11, 2008

Hello All,
I was wondering about the RN Fellowship Program. I applied and just received an email stating they want me to call to schedule an interview.
I haven't been on an interview in a very very long time, so pretty nervous and curious as to what type of questions they ask. If anyone can offer more info it would be greatly appreciated.
I read all the below info and wow program sounds great!! This is the only program I've found that take GN's and Im very interested in it.
Any information anyone can offer would be awesome!!
I'll officially be a GN in 5 weeks!! almost there!!!

hi anjeleyes214, I just received the same exact email. Did you go to the interview? How did it go?

you can also email me at [email protected]. thanks!!!!

babyj9396 · Jan 6, 2009

I did a Nurse Residency back in '07 at NYU and the pay is the same for everyone. I'm assuming that all of NYC is more or less the same. All new grads start out with the same salary (approx. $69,000 base). The only reason that you would get "less" at NY Pres or NYU in the Residency program compared to another nurse is because they're getting experience pay. Hope that helps!

babyj9396 · Jan 6, 2009

I also applied for the Residency Fellowship starting in March. The way I understand it is that you first get interviewed by Recruitment, then the NM of the unit you choose, then the professors. After that, a decision is made. The two year commitment is an ethical one, not an actual contract, but I'm sure if you leave before that they won't give you a good recommendation. It sounds like a great experience....the only problem is that I don't know if I can wait until March! I've gone through the first 2 interviews but with the holidays everything is taking longer...Good Luck!

billythekid · Jan 16, 2009

Just wanted to bump this to the top to see how BillytheKid is doing!
I'm living in anticipation!
Kris

Hi! I've actually been doing pretty well. I've had the chance to read thru some of the recent postings that shed a negative light on the NSLIJ program, and I have to say that in some ways I'm surprised and in some ways I'm not. Since I have no experience at LIJ, to that end I can't add any comments. As far as Manhasset, I found the educators (Semester 1) to be terrific and upbeat. Once my fellowship class hit the floors in semester 2, there were mixed opinions ranging from very dissatisfied to very satisfied. Maybe I feel I just lucked out with the CTU :redbeathe because although it is very technical and challenging, I really enjoy the majority of work I do there. A big part of your experience is obviously who becomes your preceptor. During Semester 1, we were on the floor approx 8 hrs per week where we got to see how things sort of run. Going into Sem 2, we were asked if there was anyone in particular that we would want to precept with. I gave a list of a few ppl who I had connected with during the limited hours spent on the floor, and the managers sincerely tried to make it work. One person was going on an extended vacation, the other hadn't taken the proper preceptor training classes, so they ended up assigning me to someone they picked (which turned out to be an awesome match). So maybe I got a lucky roll of the dice on that end. After 8 weeks with preceptor 1, you move onto Preceptor 2 for another 8 weeks (#1 is usually days, then #2 on nights... some other units started on nights immediately b/c that's when preceptor was available.. starting on nights definitely caused a commotion with the ppl it affected.. I think 1 person left b/c they didn't feel the situation was handled properly on their floor). My Preceptor #2 was also an experienced nurse.. after a rough start (I had a tough time adjusting to night schedule), things worked out nicely, and she is a valuable resource whenever I have a question or have a particularly heavy assignment. There are a few other ppl on nites Preceptor 2 has trained, and they always seems to go out of way to help each other if needed. Over all, there really is a strong sense of commraderie and light-heartedness on the night shift (I've laughed so hard I cried a number of times). It can be very busy and stressful due to pt acuity, but as long as you have good ppl to work with, things just seem to go more smoothly and the shift flies by. Reading other posts, my experience doesn't seem to be the typical one.. again I'm only referencing one unit.. but I feel lucky to have had this educational and growing experience. From other friends who have gone similar routes at other hospitals, I honestly wouldn't trade my situation for any of theirs. :no: