Seton Hall Accel BSN--Still Viable??

  1. 0 I recently heard that Seton Hall University (South Orange, NJ) is "closing" its Accelerated BSN Program to new admissions, eg: that the last Accel Class it admitted was this past September, 2007....and that no new students were being accepted to its Accel Program after that. Does anyone know if this is true?.....or can you confirm it?

    And if so, do you know why they are not taking new students? I had heard it was due to its dismally low scores on NCLEX, and that the program at Seton Hall was very disorganized?

    I understand they will still have their regular 4-year BSN program, but this change only affects its Accel BSN.
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  4. Visit  ggabri07 profile page
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    I dont think this is true. I recently applied for the fall 08 accelerated nursing and have been in contact with the admissions department trying to verify if they received my transcripts. I also spoke with the director -asking her questions about the program. She did not say that they were not accepting students. What you heard probably was a rumor. However, I do need to look at the passing rate of the students from that school. That will have an effect on my choice of nursing school
  5. Visit  StudentFromNj profile page
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    I don't know anything about the accelerated program but I'm in the 4 year bsn.

    About the passing rate for the NCLEX, according to their website it says 97% of students pass. I'm sure they take into count both accelerated and 4 year students.

    source:
    http://www.shu.edu/about/fast_facts.cfm
  6. Visit  ggabri07 profile page
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    What year are you in? How are the teachers?

    Quote from StudentFromNj
    I don't know anything about the accelerated program but I'm in the 4 year bsn.

    About the passing rate for the NCLEX, according to their website it says 97% of students pass. I'm sure they take into count both accelerated and 4 year students.

    source:
    http://www.shu.edu/about/fast_facts.cfm
  7. Visit  StudentFromNj profile page
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    ^I'm only a second semester freshman. For my nursing classes, the professors I've had have been pretty good..I can't complain.


    I can't speak for much considering I'm only taking my second nursing theory course, but the professors I've had are pretty good.
  8. Visit  birdgardner profile page
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    That would be news to me. There is a meeting for prospective accel. students this month.
  9. Visit  ggabri07 profile page
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    Quote from birdgardner
    That would be news to me. There is a meeting for prospective accel. students this month.
    What day and time is the meeting? Is it going to be in South Orange or Georgian Court. I went on their website and did not see anything about it
  10. Visit  Hydakins profile page
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    Quote from ggabri07
    What year are you in? How are the teachers?
    See if you can find out anything about the professors on www.ratemyprofessors.com I havent looked at Seton Hall specifically but I used to use this site when registering for non nursing classes. I hope that it helps.
  11. Visit  birdgardner profile page
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    The session was going to be held at Georgian Court but I don't see it posted now - here is the website and you can call. http://nursing.shu.edu/accelerated.htm

    If you want to know what professors we had, pm me.
  12. Visit  nutty119 profile page
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    I am in the acc program right now. It really depends on which professors you get but as accelerated students we don't get to choose who we want. We've had some great professors and some really bad ones. Administration wise, it is HIGHLY disorganized. We were supposed to register for our summer classes today and half the class didn't know about it. It was mayhem.
  13. Visit  JerseyGuy profile page
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    Here's what I've picked up from a pretty reliable source....a senior level educational dean at another nursing school:

    Seton Hall's Accelerated BSN apparently has a fairly low NCLEX pass rate....both they and UMDNJ's Accel Program are among the lowest in NJ. Also, Seton Hall is supposed to stop offering an Accel BSN, and instead, offer some type of Accelerated Master's in Nursing----BUT that will require them extending their program from the current 15-16 months, to close to another year. Am unsure of the exact degree, other than it's some type of "Clinical Nurse Leader"-type Master's Degree in Nursing. And, at some point students will still need to pass the NCLEX, to get licensed as an RN.

    Some questions: at the price of Seton Hall....is this plan really "viable"?? Also, what hospital is going to hire a Master's-prepared "Clinical Nurse Leader", most of whom probably WILL NOT want to take a "regular Staff RN" patient assignment?? Ya gotta wonder....what are these academic administrator's thinking??

    Comments, please??
  14. Visit  birdgardner profile page
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    I've found that administrators often badmouth other schools.

    I've been told that the Seton Hall accel. program has close to 100% pass rate, not sure the time frame. I haven't seen any official figures breaking down regular and accel. students. All I know is, they are interviewing students for next year right now. And not selling us on any MSN program, either.

    Heads up warning on Seton Hall: they have not been good about telling students their tuition and fee structure.

    Questions to ask: flat rate or by credit? (by credit this year, comes out to the same total, but front-loaded)
    computer included in tuition? (no, and don't buy one, you have to pay $700 per semester anyway to rent one)
    required purchases besides books and uniform?( nurse pack and palm pilot $170, $300)
    assessment fees each semester for ATI? yes
    student activity fee? yes, $350 per semester, ha, we have time for this?
    enrollment fee? yes, $100
    health insurance? yes
    graduation or other fees? how do I know, haven't received any notice. You find out when you get billed.

    look at UMDNJ's website, they list a ton of fees, I suggest you ask SHU about each one as applied to SHU, and ask if they have something in writing. The estimated financial needs form is not binding nor is it accurate for the accel BSN program.
    Last edit by birdgardner on Mar 6, '08 : Reason: accuracy
  15. Visit  AtomicWoman profile page
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    Quote from StudentFromNj
    I don't know anything about the accelerated program but I'm in the 4 year bsn.

    About the passing rate for the NCLEX, according to their website it says 97% of students pass. I'm sure they take into count both accelerated and 4 year students.

    source:
    http://www.shu.edu/about/fast_facts.cfm
    I don't know where the heck they get that 97% pass rate. In 2006, their pass rate was 87.7% and in 2005 it was 77.1%. I don't think the 2007 data are publicly available yet. The stats don't differentiate between the ABSN and regular BSN programs.

    2006: http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/nursin...Results_06.pdf - 11.1KB

    2005: http://www.nj.gov/lps/ca/nursing/minute/nur221.htm

    And if you read the 2005 minutes, you'll see that Seton Hall was actually below 75% in 2004.
    Last edit by AtomicWoman on Mar 14, '08 : Reason: Provide a better link for 2005 data


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